The Arabian sword
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@FixxxeR208 ah, but point beats edge or have you not been reading your Sharpe books?
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I don't know who exactly invented that shape of sword , though I think the early arabs did, but Ahmad did a smart thing here: he made his sword lighter, sharper and more elegant. So..he can slice the enemies easier. Nice job Ahmed!
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i think the earliest that i ever read about a saber like weapon was in mongolia. i hadn't heard of the huns having sabers, but since they were from central asia it's not too far fetched of an idea. i think the mongols may have developed something like our modern sabers from the chinese dao weapon so it could be used more effectively off a horse. since the many turkic peoples descended from tribes aligned with the mongols, it only makes sense that the turks would have sabers later on too.
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if you will search you will see Huns and Avars used scimitar(kilij)
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The Arabs used straight swords this is a fact, it's a fact backed by historians. I'm in no way trying to discredit Arabs. We adopted many things from you too. Religion for one lol.
I hope you realize the fact that the depiction of the zulfiqar is totally fictional .. There is no historical prove of who the sword actually looked.
P.s the Kopesh bro is nothing like a Kilic/Saber/Arab sword .. it's more like a sickle.
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This clip is from movie "the 13th warrior."
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Why "LOL"?
So I assume Zulfiqar, Ali's sword, never really existed?
The Kilij was a superior sword and more curved (At the belly, as opposed to the edge) than Arabian swords that the Muslims were using. When the Turks met them, converted to Islam and everyone aligned together, it was only obvious that the Kilij would be adopted.
However, look up the Khopesh. Made by Canaanites, many other Arabian civilizations used them historically.
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@LuckyDukeSeven LOL that's not true.
Show me any sources of those those thousands of years old curved swords. The Arabs at the time of Mohamed used straight swords. The curved sword (more precisely kilic/kilij) was introduced during the Ummayad and Abbasid caliphates by hired Turkic mercenaries. Earliest example of Arabs using curved swords is 9th cent AD
Arabs did not live in Anatolia so I don't get the connection with us migrating to Anatolia and influencing Arab swords.
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Arabs had curved swords from the time of Muhammed, before the Turks migrated from central Asia to Anatolia. The swords developed were similar, but unrelated. In fact, Phoenicians and south Arabian relics that are several thousand years old have depcitions of curved words. The straight-sword was never popular in the east.
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That's not an Arab sword .. the arabs originally had straight swords ...
They copied their curved sword from the KILIC/KILIJ, which is a Turkish sword (simply means sword)
PS. The kilij is the father of nearly all curved swords (even the mamluke swords worn by US officers) It's a Turkic sword and it's cutting power rivals the katana. European straight blades (long, short) did not have a chance against it.
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@seanamico Actually, during the ninth century, the population of the Middle East was cosmopolitan and people made no distinction between an Arab and a Persian ; even if, as Bernard Lewis explained in his History of The Arabs that the advent of the Abbassids and the end of the Umeyads was perceived as the victory of Iranian people over a Semitic people. Anyway my point is you guys should stop fighting you are distant cousins ;)
hmizoouu 6 months ago 22
@seanamico Well these are not accurate historical facts, Abbassid were not "forced out" of Iran they lost their military power to the Seldjukid during the 11th Century, but hey you have the right to believe what you want. Oh and what do you mean by "Your cult and animal behavior" you don't even know what I am ! Or maybe you assume that anyone who is not Iranian is an animal, if so I have bad news for you my friend, you're xenophobic. Good day.
hmizoouu 6 months ago 15