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A Go Complex- Comparative sideshow of space and go.

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A game of go, from the first move, has more game outcome possibilities than molecules of Hydrogen in the sun!

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  • Neat video, thanks for making! (just pondering a conservative estimate - suppose during the Go game there are at least 200 moves which had 10 possibilities each, then the number of possible games would be over 10^200 which would completely dwarf the estimated number of atoms in the known universe (10^80). In fact, if each atom had its own little universe with 10^80 more particles, there would still be too few by a factor of a thousand trillion trillion trillion :) just a thought...

  • hmm, wow. ok, well here are the numbers: A game of go has 361 moves, then 360 and so on... so I think the equation would be y=(360-x)360. I think that may be right, but it might not. Anyone have corrections?

  • ** if x is the move number (starting from 361 down to 1) and y is the ammount of combinations left. it seems wrong, so whoever is smart out there, i need some numbers =D

  • awesome video

  • Thanks, I will be making one soon of go and religion. I want to embrace all prominent religions into my next video, so if anyone has suggestions just message me

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  • @hikaruUSA I know this comment is super old, but just saw it now and I think it's a permutation so it should be 361 factorial (361*360*359...*1). That's a big number lol.

  • @hikaruUSA So, the answer to the question (how many go games are possible) is very complicated and difficult to model, but it would be fair to estimate 362 factoral (362*361*360 etc.) Which is about 5.2 x 10^770 which is a colossally big number that I cannot communicate to you well in physical terms. But which is far larger than wolfram alpha's estimate of the number of go positions 4.6 x 10^170

    I'd be more inclined to trust wolfram alpha's estimate.

  • @hikaruUSA On any move you may either place a stone or pass. So there are 362 options for the first move, ignoring symmetry. And then ignoring that certain moves may be illegal (suicide or ko) there is exactly one less option to move each turn. This is also ignoring that stones may be captured and therefore their points are open to be played in again. In this case we would need to adopt a superko rule that states that no board position can be repeated in order to come to a finite answer cont

  • @hikaruUSA It should be (361-x)! where x is moves made.

  • @XshlomoX mirror game? dude...

  • haha let play rotem bet ur like a 5dan now?

  • interesting... I just read that a game of go/weigi/baduk is capable of more permutations than there are subatomic particles in the known universe. I'm going to stand up now and think about that until I can fully imagine and comprehend it.

  • Most mirror games start at the center, don't they? Even so, mirror games are stupid :P

  • What was I thinking, thanks...

  • A Hydrogen molecule is composed of TWO Hydrogen atoms! Honestly, do your homework!

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