The Golden Question: Don't Forget the Cross

Refuting Universal Atonement

The death of Christ is not a provisional measure, but actually secures salvation; it does not just make sinners redeemable, but actually redeems! ~Joel R. Beeke

This undeniable truth is crucial to understanding how God saves sinners. The central focus of the gospel surrounds the event that took place on the cross exalting the deity of Christ and the accomplishment of His gracious sacrifice. After all, the gospel is a description of how God saves sinners. So the issue of "how God saves sinners" is very, very important. Did I mention that it's very important?

Jesus died on the cross to pay for the sins of those sinners He intended to save on the cross. However, many suggest that Jesus merely made it available for anyone to co-sign for the "payment" that had taken place. This concept is self-defeating because it wouldn't be a "payment" if Jesus didn't rid of the sins as to satisfy the wrath of God once for all. That would be the same as saying that Jesus' sacrifice is not made effectual until man finishes it. This contradicts the clear teaching of the Bible where Jesus cried, "It is finished!" while He was on the cross. His one sacrifice was sufficient and became effectual the moment He died.

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[HisGrace71]

Jesus did pay for all sins and purchased salvation. The only way to recieve salvation is by repentence and belief. If God were only to send His son for "chosen elect" then all prophets before christ would be in hell, because his death wouldnt have been neccesary. They didnt have a savior yet still entered heaven. So then these elect would would not need a savior.

[zkueker88]

@HisGrace71 Jesus didn't "purchase salvation." Jesus purchased those sinners that the Father gave Him, and atoned for all their sins forever. Jesus promised the Father that these very sinners the Father gave Him will never perish. They will be raised on the last day. See John 6... and watch the entire video while paying attention. We are not justified by works.

[magnus56j]

This is NOT Christianity!!

[zkueker88]

@magnus56j says who... you?

[LadyGreenEyes964]

I can see some of the frustration; you are dealing with Catholics, and their confused doctrine. I can also see the heart of the issue here. The problem is the sin unto death. Jesus died for the sins of all, but there is ONE sin that He will not forgive, and that is rejecting Him, not believing. Matthew 12:31-32 and Mark 3:22-30 address this. Catholics, those at least, act as though the ONE actual "deadly sin" isn't at all, and that others are. That is their mistake.

[zkueker88]

@LadyGreenEyes964

again, LadyGreenEyes, context is everything. Matt 12:31, for instance, is talking about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. not unbelief. unbelief is not the same thing. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is accusing a miraculous working of the Spirit as a work of the devil. are you trying to deny that Jesus paid for all sins (i.e. unbelief)?

[CBALLEN]

All men are dead spiritually.They are dead to anything spiritual such as Salvation,they can't understand it nor do they feel a need for it.Just as Jesus allowed Lazarus to die to prove both who He was and that He has power over death,we are also shown how a dead sinner must be raised to "spiritual life" before he can come to Christ. Regeneration of a dead sinner must take place before that sinner is made able to both,hear and see,then he is called to come just as Lazarus was.

[CBALLEN]

There will not be one person in Hell that Jesus died for.Those who end up in Heaven will be there because Jesus died for, and took the wrath for all of their sins on the cross.Jesus died for specific people and all their specific sins,God poured all the wrath out on His Son for these specific sins, of HIS people.If God poured out all His wrath,for all men's sins,He would have no wrath left.Of course we know that God has plenty of wrath left to pour out on the wicked.

[hemet92544]

opening song "Simple Minds Don't You Forget About Me" now if i state why is a song about the world in a song that talks about Jesus, of whom has made it clear about this world and everything in it, if i state why is this song being used, a reply will be "thou shalt not judge".....amazing how Satan made this world blind and deaf.....

[magnus56j]

@zkueker88 Says Jesus. This video is based off of the blasphemous teachings and strange man-made doctrines of John Calvin. So it is a Calvinist video, not a Christian video. John Calvin hasn't understood a thing that Jesus taught, and perverted the context of Romans 8 and 9. He taught strange things like double-predestination. Calvinism thinks that God is a god who excessively hates His creation. Utter Blasphemy!! BLASPHEMY in this video!!

[247websolutions]

To say that Colossians 1:24 is referring to Christ's suffering on the cross is to take the verse out of context. In fact, going back two verses we see that Paul tells the Colossians that God has already reconciled them and in God's sight they are holy, without blemish and free from accusation. In context, the afflictions that are still lacking are the ongoing afflictions that Christ suffers through His servants as they are persecuted for spreading the word of God in it's fullness.

[walkinlightoftruth]

Jesus himself taught us that if we do not forgive others thier sins then we will not be foregiven our sins: Matthew 6:14 Jesus also claimed to be the truth the way and the life. I think you make too many false assumptions. We each have a choice. If I buy all the books in a bookstore and each book represents an individuals salvation, yet people refuse to take the gift I paid for, thet choose not to enter into the relationship based on what I paid for and offer.