Thane Heins Perepiteia device demo to Ottawa Skeptics group

Thane Heins Perepiteia device demo to Ottawa Skeptics group

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[dljc1979]

none of this is new, i've seen more than a few free-energy devices being made and operated, made some myself, i know people who run their homes on free energy!!! fucking tesla started it all!!! POLITICS STOPS ADVANCES BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH POWER DON'T LIKE BEING MADE TO LOOK STUPID, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

[wingdig]

OK, I'm just an electrician, but what I have to see is energy in (watts) and work done or energy out - show me them meters! I also don't get the length of the magnetic circuit? all the way from the magnetic generator to the motor?? these flux lines are suppose to be a loop, will be as short as possible and diminish the longer or more resistance is in the circuit... this I just can't get, but ideas that break the known universe will stump simple minds like mine... keep up the work and show us...

[blackettband]

Well, it's been three years now since Thane first got his 15 minutes of fame with the 'stumping' of the MIT professor. He still hasn't put Exxon out of business. He still hasn't even shown that any energy is generated. He is still probably 'stumping' the occasional person. But - if this worked - he would be ruling the world. In another 3 years I'll bet we will have forgotten about this failure and people will instead be raving about the next amazing device... that doesn't work.

[jeebersjumpincryst]

@boys0fsummer1 Yes - fair comment and point taken.

I dunno tho.... I just cant see the overunity avenue ever working out - I know thats the classic "argument from personal incredulity" and is therefore not any sort of argument, but thats where my money is - I REALLY hope Im pleasantly surprised one day though.

No-one has yet demonstrated overunity.

I too desperately hope something new is discovered - that or the casimir effect gets harnessed.... :/

[boys0fsummer1]

After all, scientists are often wrong in their theories about the universe.

Inventors should not limit themselves to what science says is possible. If Guglielmo Marconi had listened to the scientists of his day, he would have known that it is "IMPOSSIBLE" for wireless telegraphy to be sent around the Earth's curvature. see spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/tech­-careers/engineering-is-not-sc­ience

[boys0fsummer1]

@jeebersjumpincryst

I agree that an extraordinary claim like a violation of one of the laws of thermodynamics would require extra-ordinary evidence. I am no scientist, but a look at the history of science would encourage us to remember that scientific theories are merely the best (meaning most popular) explanation of the world. They are not necessarily correct. If we let scientific theories tell us x is possible, we may be limiting ourselves. (continued)

[jeebersjumpincryst]

@boys0fsummer1 (cont'd from below).... not a debate win or loss - that big cash prize is for EVIDENCE of a wacky claim - ie - successful, repeatable: dowsing; mindreading; levitating; a caged reptoid, the list goes on, and in this case, more energy coming out of the system than is being put in. (losses accounted for, of course) It's easily measurable with a voltage/ammeter at each "end" of the system. Minimal knowledge of physics will tell one why this is not possible. I wish it was though...

[jeebersjumpincryst]

@boys0fsummer1 Hi - wow, I'd forgotten bout this, and comment too. Re: Randi judging? Depends what you are referring to here - this claim and claimed evidence of overunity - ie - more energy out than goes in. Anyone could judge that, as it would be measurable; observable - ie - yes/no, on/off, there/not there. But you do mention/ask if he's a fair judge of a "debate". Quite right - he would not be a fair judge of a debate, though I do think he'd be very fair. But the challenge is not a(cont'd)->

[boys0fsummer1]

@jeebersjumpincryst

But randi is a skeptic. Surely he is not a fair judge of a hypothetical skeptic vs "pseudoscience" debate? Conflict of interest perhaps?

[jeebersjumpincryst]

i see the randi paranormal $1000000 challenge prize has still yet to be claimed... skeptics 1 pseudoscience 0 is anyone actually surprised?!