Public Option Makes a Comeback

"I am told that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is leaning toward including the creation of a new government-run insurance program the so-called public option in the health care reform bill he will bring to the full Senate in the coming weeks. Democratic sources tell me that Reid after a series of meetings with Democratic moderates has concluded he can pass a bill with a public option."

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[Trollmaster21]

If passing the health care public option is going to doom the Democrat party in the 2010 elections,? then every Republican should do whatever they can to get the public option passed this way. Go sign the petition and help pressure Dems to? pass this. Go to

wewantthepublicoption

dotcom

and help out. Because if the public option is not passed, then that means less GOP seats will gain in 2010, and why would any Republican want that?

[ClassicFIHD]

And how many of these people polled know anything about the U.S.'s Healthcare System? And anytime something seems free people will love it. However the U.S. and Canada does not have the same healt issues. They have already siad this U.S. plan will cost 1.4 trillion dollars. We have other solutions that should be tried first. There are over 1500 Heath Insurance Companies in the U.S. and the people that live in California are legally only allowed to use 6.

[megarational]

wikipedia: a 2009 poll by Nanos Research: 86.2% of Canadians surveyed supported or strongly supported "public solutions to health care..."

2009 Harris/Decima poll: 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States, more than ten times as many as the 8% stating a preference for a US-style health care system...

2008 Strategic Counsel survey" 91% of Canadians preferring their healthcare system to that of the U.S.

News flash - they polled "real Canadians." canadians

[ClassicFIHD]

So where is your side's "real" people propaganda?

[megarational]

Bottom line: recognize a propaganda video for being exactly that.

Using testimonials from "real" people is standard info-mercial practice.

[megarational]

If your want to get some idea of how real Canadians cherish their health care system maybe you have some way of checking the huge volume of "letters to editor" in the Edmonton Journal newspaper over the past year.Edmonton is the capital of the prov of

Alberta and the issue has been a hot one, since a conservative government has been trying to balance the budget by removing some of the health care costs from government books by forcing more people into private insurance.

[megarational]

Yes I did. If using cherry-picked anecdotes, grossly exaggerating problems while ignoring massive advantages, and outright deception constitute lying then yes that whole video is a lie.

eg: patent laws, not private HC insurance premiums, are the main factor in determining profitability of new drug discoveries. .

Contrary to what that video suggests, nothing in the reforms or the public option would change the US system into that of Canada's or Great Britain's.

[ClassicFIHD]

Did you watch the video link I gave you?

Are you saying  that's all lies?

[megarational]

Dentistry is not covered under UHC.

There are no town lotteries or long lines to see a Doctor in any of the Canadian cities I've lived in. I just went to a walk-in clinic last week (arthritis). Even without an appointment I waited only 45 minutes b4 seeing a doctor. Don't know about you, but I don't mind waiting a little longer if I don't have to worry about a large medical bill.

[megarational]

In Canada triage is on the basis of how serious the medical condition is. Since Canada also needs more doctors many elective surgeries have met with increasing wait times. (Politicians are under fire to reduce wait times.) Wealthy people sometimes prefer to jump the que by going to the US for an operation. Two points: if you need a life saving operation right away, in Canada you get it right away. As health care premiums skyrocket in the US, more and more Americans are also going abroad for HC.