What was Sam Harris doing on his Mac?
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Hey, isn't that Glaber from Spartacus?
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@FamousDave2186 Morality founded upon mutuality, reason, and human virtue. It's coexistential and depends on everyone working together to create a world without as much conflict. Actually that's an assumption, further atheism doesn't say life has no meaning. Your beliefs are heavily nihilistic as you've stated everything depends on god leaving everything else empty, further your beliefs devalue human life by saying we have an eternity that will never end and go on pointlessly without end.
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@FamousDave2186 That's an assumption based off of a non-belief, but you didn't defend why god made life so special when I pointed out its nihilistic and misanthropic nature. Keep lying it only hurts your dignity. Your example is the same as WLC, and kelly shagan called him out on it. Just because you can't find meaning in a finite life doesn't mean there is none, an eternal life is pointless. Also past actions effect the present, present actions affect the future.
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@FamousDave2186 That's an assumed purpose, and not a very good one at that further you don't have evidence that god created life. Not all creatures reproduce sexually some do it asexually but that seems completely off topic. Isn't it obvious? Without human flourishing there would be no life to speak of, everything would've eradicated itself. Animals also have a sense of morals, otherwise they'd die out as well we interact with them differently because we have higher brain functions.
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@Requiemxtoxinnocence appel to emotion won't work on me. I'll let you get the last word in because I know you'll want to respond but if you come up and respond to me again I'll bring up the same thing. No foundations. I won't place my views on sinking sand.
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@Requiemxtoxinnocence conti:for your moral views. "Your view completely devalues humanity" that is the reality of atheism, sorry you don't wish to accpet your worldview. But if morals are objective we can see why we have worth. Under your view I don't see it. My belifes are not unfounded and in no way nihilistic, in fact if morals are subjective that would be the case however I'm not making that claim. I can see you have no argument for your worldview. You're not bad at debating but using...
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@Requiemxtoxinnocence conti: everything else in this world. No the guy was not perfectly clear and you just saying I changed my answer when he did when you presented the quote, shows the other way around. Now you say actions define past (not possible) present, and future and ripple out. Still doesn't explain anything. In the end this universe will die of a heat death according to scienctist. So what's the point? Everything we've done will be destroyed. You haven't given me any foundations
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@Requiemxtoxinnocence No it wouldn't be. Our true purpose in this world if you choose to do so is to love and follow God. Without Him creating us we wouldn't have life. Tell me without your parents pro-creating you how do you make a human or any animal for that matter? Now you keep putting this postion of human florshing but I still haven't heard any reason as to why its important. Under atheism man is no better than any animal and/or any creature on this earth. We live, we die, same as...
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@FamousDave2186 Your view completely devalues humanity, it puts all worth on a god and dismisses any intrinsic value we have. Then it proposes an endless life or death going on forever making all our actions here meaningless because after all no one will remember much after a few billion years pass. Furthermore atheism is concerned with skepticism and supernatural claims have never been proven. So your belief is unfounded and nihilistic.
This would've been a hell of a lot funnier if you didn't show the video and instead just played the song quietly over Craig's talking. Subtlety.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago 5
@FamousDave2186 Right so when I characterize your belief as valueless its an appeal to emotion but when you do it, it's fine argumentation. Not only are you a liar but also a hypocrite. You know maybe if you would actually open your mind to different value systems you would understand. Your views are already in sinking sands,and you can't account for your foundations because you assume god is goodness which is circular and you can't define characteristics you are trying to establish.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 3 weeks ago