Zipang mirai's 1st battle

mirai's 1st encounter to the allied submarine

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[cr4yv3n]

@tsuyoshi15 : It was innevitable.

Advanced as it was it could not compete with numerical superiority not to mention her advanced weaponry could not be resupplied by that era technology armament.

All in all, siding with IJN was a bad move imo.

They knew IJN was wrong, they were told japan MUST lose the war to learn a lesson in humility and be reborn..and still they choose this?..hmm

[hururono4]

最新鋭艦の艦長だから。まあ、佐官には違いないから、偉く言った­方がいいと思ったのでしょう。

[EPsuperFan]

@cr4yv3n Also, wouldn't call the IJN officer a lunatic. He's a man of 1940 and a visionary who's not bounded by either loyalty to imperial Japan nor "the future"/history. He is just using the situation and knowledge to achieve a better world according to his idea. I mean, if Mirai arrived before 1941, probably he would simply let Japan stay out of the Axis and secure the conquered land in Manchuria and China.

[EPsuperFan]

@cr4yv3n well first off it is not fair to demand the Mirai crew to side with the U.S., do they want to see millions of compatriots die? No. Second as the XO said, Mirai's job (their only way of finding a meaning to their action really) is to prevent loss of human life, such as what they did on Guadacanal. This does not mean siding with anyone. Of course they fail rather horribly since history is not idle and cannot be "controlled".

[cr4yv3n]

@EarthForces Just imagine how much their ( innevitable ) victory would have been hastened.

No island hoping as they would hit directly the croonies in Japan directly - those smug IJN guys you see in one episode scheming.

No nukes dropped either - since the campaign wouldn't have lasted out long enough for research to be completed.

I know it's an year old comment but i like to keep replies fresh ^^

[cr4yv3n]

@EarthForces I saw the whole anime - i meant the end of the series.

In the end the XO goes after this lunatic IJN officer who dreams of screwing up with history and the captain says something along the lines of:

"We'll side with the IJN for now but be ready to scuttle the ship if they try to take it' - not very far from fully siding with them.

Even if it would be "treason" by some i would have handed down the tech to the americans.

[EarthForces]

The point of this clip if you watched it completely is the difference of the current JMSDF and the IJN... JMSDF do not desire to attack the sub. They intended to evade the torpedo attacks but a CIC operator out of fear, accidentally fired the ASROC. watch the next part of the clip and you'll understand why. The first comment was concerning your initial statements which I agree on what you were saying.

[EarthForces]

@cr4yv3n rightfully so your statement is clearly in line of what the creator of the anime intended it to be... It actually resonates the counter-attack from the anti-war elements of the Japanese media. There is a currently re -surging National feeling in some parts of the Japanese populace. Too bad they never knew how bloody cruel they were during the war. I'm a Filipino who read eyewitness accounts and other reliable data on unbiased books of how cruel the Empire of Japan was.

[Raneko]

@037kondo

Well it's to bad it was canceled.

[Compatriot]

How does Zipang manga end?

[037kondo]

@cr4yv3n well said. I loved this anime until the very end. then i was let down.