What's it REALLY like in a Stryker truck get-stuck wagon?

Nomorenarcissism

STUCK...STUCK...STUCK...STUCK...another Stryker stuck in the dust....

The number #1 rule of GOOD light infantry is to STAY OFF THE ROADS/TRAILS where enemy ambushers await you....how can you do this if the minute you leave hard surfaces you get stuck?

http://www.reocities.com/wheelsvstracks

Look at the recent PBS documentary, "Afghanistan: the Other War", Go to 2:58 and see why the Canadians have gone to tracks in Afghanistan like other smarter armies, Brits, Dutch etc. Canadian LAV-IIIs hopelessly stuck in mud, breaks main bearing, mission aborted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXFMix3dudU

In fact, the "New" LAV3Stryker wheeled infantry wagon dates back to 1954: a competent U.S. Army rejected it 53 years ago!

http://www.combatreform.org/usarmyrejectedLAV3STRYKERmotorizedtrucksin1954.jpg

Page 77 of Hunnicutt's book "Bradley: a History of American Fighting and Support Vehicles" shows the post-Korean war U.S. Army considered wheeled tin cans to motorize troops along with cross-country-mobile tracks. The "revolutionary", "new" road-bound wheels were rejected and M113 Gavin tracks were built; 57 years of combat success has followed ever since. Those that say LAV3/Strykers are "newer" are incompetent ignorants of armored vehicle history or willing liars.

Even if you are not immediately incinerated killed or maimed, being constantly ambushed by the enemy because your wheeled truck cannot leave roads/trails/streets is damaging to us. Taxpayers hurt. Enemy happy. Civilians see Americans cannot defend themselves much less them.

What matters in war is VICTORY--not prolonged operations however "brilliantly executed" (Sun Tzu said this--but since when do light infantry narcissists READ or THINK? Why bother listing sources?)

If we go broke operating easily ambushed wheeled trucks we will be forced to leave Iraq as surely as being defeated in a WW2-style pitched battle.

If you buy into the Canadian-made Stryker wheeled truck created by the liberal, big-government Clinton administration to do feel-good nation-building that is killing/maiming our Soldiers, that makes you a liberal, doesn't it?

These poor Canadian LAV-III Soldiers are just plain DEAD:

Liars say road-bound LAV-IIIs protect against land mines: Quebec Soldier Killed as Result

http://oruzgan.web-log.nl/uruzgan_weblog/canada/index.html

"The deadly roadside bombs have killed 22 of the 26 Canadian Soldiers who have died in Afghanistan over the past six months.

But tanks tend not to be the target of choice for the Taliban because of the protection they offer to those inside.

Lt.-Col. Stephane Lafaut, the incoming commander of the Operational Mentoring and Liaison Team in Afghanistan, said Tuesday that IEDs tend to be used more by the Taliban to target other vehicles -- such as Canada's LAV3, Nyala and Bison armoured vehicles -- instead of tanks."

www.herofund.ca/?cat=51

Name: Private David Robert Greenslade
Died: April 8, 2007
Age: 20
Hometown: Saint-John, New Brunswick
Children: none

Unit : 2nd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment, (Gagetown, New Brunswick)

Private Greenslade was killed with five other Canadian Soldiers, when their LAV-III armored vehicle hit a roadside bomb. Greenslade was a member of the 2nd Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment.

For a sampling of all the U.S. Army LAV-III/Stryker and USMC LAV-1 needless dead:

http://www.combatreform.org/strykerhorrors.htm

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• incompetence

[BaconTV123]

strykers give LAVs a bad name

[nomorenarcissism]

@BaconTV123 Don't forget LAVs give LAVs a bad name, too.

[BillMCMAP226]

i know all about tanks, i have studied tanks and by far the M1A2 is the best on earth, far better than the type 95, only the german leopoad can compare to the M1, anyone who says otherwisw knows absolutley nothing about tank warfare, believe me, this is what i do

[nomorenarcissism]

I realize there's not much space here but I hope you have FACTS to back up your reasoning. Its not enough to just make an argument-by-assertion, so even though I'm on your side, always be ready to show your arrived at your opinions by due diligence. Thanks for commenting!

[Sasherra]

I know all about people, I have studied people and by far you are not a person. Only George Bush could relate to your inhumanity. Anyone who says otherwise knows absolutley nothing about people, believe me, this is what I do.

And to video poster: Good video. I still like the Stryker, but just like everything it's having a rough start. The bradley was a piece of shit, but now it's one of the best. So hopefully the Stryker will get past these difficulties.

[nomorenarcissism]

Bradley is still screwed up. It can be fixed but it will only be an open-terrain infantry-carrying tank. In contrast, Stryker cannot be fixed as its intrinsically UNSOUND because its WHEELED. Details:

geocities dott comm slash wheelsvstracks

[rexregum]

@BillMCMAP226 there is no best MBT, there are a few selections once you get to the top few but it's like choosing a Nikon or Canon camera, all of them have their pros and cons.

Additionally, the definition of "best" also extends to how combat effective you can be. You may be the toughest and fastest tank around but if you're unreliable or can't be produced in enough numbers to make a difference you aren't going to win the war. In the strategic sense, that isn't a very good tank.

[14th20thKRHkickass]

tracked vehicles will always come out trumps against the wheeled apcs such as LAV and BTR

[athletesfootable]

3:10 fuckin bullshit right there

[rentnation]

Stryker!

Now only averaging one death per knocked out vehicle in Afghanistan.

Must be acceptable, because the Guv just ordered thousands more of these floaters.

Ultimate Commuting Personel Carrier.

Stryker to boldly travel where you expect us to be!

Would it be a highway of death if you didn't travel on the road most of the time? Yeah sure sometimes you have to commute.

Why do you have to be in a hurry if you're the baddest ass in the valley?

Your enemies will flee, not you.

[huntwds]

I agree the M1 is the best tank deployed. I was on the development team for the turbine engine and some of it's initial devlopment and RAM-D testing. Not sure that the Stryker and the M1 are in the same category. When we were testing the M1 we would get upset when the Army complained about a slight smoke plume at start when you could always tell where a Bradley was by it's big diesel exhaust plume.20/20 tried to do a hatchett job on the M1 regarding filters, do you remember?

[jawehawk]

ever heard of the Chanllenger 2?

[retephslaw]

Honestly - there was no point in building the Stryker. The LAV Work's well as a wheeled Vehicle ( with "V" bottom to help with IED ) and the Gavin although a little slower is a good Tracked equivalent. Ah well Im pretty Sure US.Marines still use LAV and i know Australia Still use a Modded LAV 25 "ASLAV" ( bigger tires , Air-con and updated firing systems )

Good luck US.army. seems like you got a fail Truck to work with.