Andy Burnham on coaltion NHS reforms (09Oct11)
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@ukipwarrior yes we as a whole you pay next to nothing for it in comparison to america. In america you have to pay for everything. it cost my grandad 5,000 pounds for a minor operation
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@wrightmt01 It isnt FREE you tit we pay 70 billion a year for it!!
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@ukipwarrior ok well what happens if you do need to use it and it was NOT free and you had to pay something stupid like 10,000 pounds for a broken arm???
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@liarpoliticans i take it u never seen the debate on the reforms then? 97 clauses to introduce competition law. Its a back door privitisation of the NHS they want and look like getting. True labour introuced some private companys but never in clinical services, after stuffing their mouths with gold nye bevan will be spinning in his grave at the thought of handing back the power to gps. Same old tory BS of measure the price of everything and the value of nothing. HANDS OFF OUR NHS
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@MetaReaLizard egalitarianism or everyone is equal in every sense. This will never happen ever.
The problem with re-floating a nationalised service is all the horror that goes with it, aka the workers. Take the abomination that is Royal Mail that just won't die, essentially to privatise a system you need to complete destroy it and create a new from it. Royal Mail will eventually fail and other companies will take their place.
The same will happen to the NHS
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@Sres1 In reverse socialists don't believe in equal people they believe in egalitrainism in the most part. Pesnions are increasingly worthless.. I have sat on board meetings with BG and OFGEM it's a private cartel... the very nature of Energy transmission means it can not be opened to competition effectively and so requires regulation.. i.e.e it is nto suited to privatisation. Subsidisation is a product of the companies holding the government to ransom over jobs and maintenance.
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@MetaReaLizard The rail network was never fully privatized, it is still subsidised, ruled by union mobs.
Gas/elec all a cartel as you said, never fully released to the private sector, gov wanted to keep their grubby mitts on it.
BP are hardly an embarrassment, I'm sure you'll rely on them for your pension like the rest of us.
Primary & Secondary business was decimated by socialist belief that everyone is equal, here's a hint, they're not, there will always be poor ppl and always be rich ppl
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@MetaReaLizard it's not in private hands though, it's in public hands, with private tendering. All of the NHS's failings come from government & union meddling.
The NHS is sick it is the patient.
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@Sres1 other vital sectors have failed under privatisation also... Our railways are a joke, BP is an international embarrassment, gas and electricity has become a cartel monopoly who can not fail to make a profit and bribe the regulator who supposdedly protect us from their uncompetitive position. British steel has shrunk to insignificance. More iimportantly though is the jobs that have been shed and the damage a decaying infrastructure has done to our private manufacturing base.
I pay for the NHS but i have not used it in 8 years!!! I wouldnt pay for Sainsburys food i had not eaten!!!
ukipwarrior 4 months ago 5
Labour talking = Labour lying.
destinyson23 4 months ago 2