@joshfrmn - I guess we just have to be extra careful who we put in charge of our country. They do have the button of distruction also. Once there it takes quite a bit to remove them.
The sad part is Polotics is one of the only jobs in America you have to be a good liar to get and once in it's hard to get rid of you.
@seeker267 I see where your comming from, but when talking about arresting people that haven't done anything, without charge or TRIAL, idefinately, in a secret location, that is some controversial shit that needs to be looked at carefully. Maybe Obama would never abuse this bill, maybe not even the next president, but what about in the future? The president could literally have you killed in secret with no charge against you. With this bill makes that legal. Think about it.
@joshfrmn - Wow,, harsh words aren't necessary... These people were under known terrorists and they had to go to extreme behavor before anything could be done. This is the reason for a bill like NDAA. They have been tried and convicted after people have been hurt. This could have been avoided with Intel that was already gathered.
@seeker267 Chesser is in jail, Awlaki is dead, Faisal Shahzad is in jail, David Headley faces life in prison when sentanced. None of these people have been let loose to then "return stronger", retard. The right to due process hasn't complicated the "war on terror". All of these people have been tried and convicted and are paying the price. And your "accomplishments" argument is a fallacy, btw. You would probably see how if you weren't such a braindead idiot.
@joshfrmn - If your are speaking of the NDAA it's only if you are accused of terrorist activities against America. There have been several American terrorists in the past that we have had to let go. They have later returned stronger and more dangerous to society. This is why the bill was enacted.
@joshfrmn He doesn't need any accomplishments? I guess in your world it's easy to go to work every day for 25 years and just stand there!! He's done nothing!!
Standing for something doesn't help anybody if you don't take any steps forwards.
@seeker267 Seriously if you like Obama, you are way out there to me, man. He passed a bill that enables the US Military to detain US citizens without charge or trial for an indefinate length of time. The funny thing is... the original document had a section excluding citizens, but HE asked for that section to be taken out! There's an accomplishment for ya... passing fascist legislation in America.
@joshfrmn - I guess we just have to be extra careful who we put in charge of our country. They do have the button of distruction also. Once there it takes quite a bit to remove them.
The sad part is Polotics is one of the only jobs in America you have to be a good liar to get and once in it's hard to get rid of you.
Only time will tell..
Good day to you :-)
seeker267 1 month ago
@seeker267 I see where your comming from, but when talking about arresting people that haven't done anything, without charge or TRIAL, idefinately, in a secret location, that is some controversial shit that needs to be looked at carefully. Maybe Obama would never abuse this bill, maybe not even the next president, but what about in the future? The president could literally have you killed in secret with no charge against you. With this bill makes that legal. Think about it.
joshfrmn 1 month ago
@ghetto574 - I'm sure Ron Paul is quite happy with your endorsement.
seeker267 1 month ago
@joshfrmn - Wow,, harsh words aren't necessary... These people were under known terrorists and they had to go to extreme behavor before anything could be done. This is the reason for a bill like NDAA. They have been tried and convicted after people have been hurt. This could have been avoided with Intel that was already gathered.
Have a wonderful day. :-)
seeker267 1 month ago
@seeker267 Chesser is in jail, Awlaki is dead, Faisal Shahzad is in jail, David Headley faces life in prison when sentanced. None of these people have been let loose to then "return stronger", retard. The right to due process hasn't complicated the "war on terror". All of these people have been tried and convicted and are paying the price. And your "accomplishments" argument is a fallacy, btw. You would probably see how if you weren't such a braindead idiot.
joshfrmn 1 month ago
@joshfrmn -Zachary Chesser. Anwar al-Awlaki, Faisal Shahzad, David Headley. There are some names for you. Now go forth and learn about them.
seeker267 1 month ago
@seeker267 What American terrorists are you talking about that have later returned "stronger" and "more dangerous to society"? Give me names.
joshfrmn 1 month ago
@joshfrmn - If your are speaking of the NDAA it's only if you are accused of terrorist activities against America. There have been several American terrorists in the past that we have had to let go. They have later returned stronger and more dangerous to society. This is why the bill was enacted.
seeker267 1 month ago
@joshfrmn He doesn't need any accomplishments? I guess in your world it's easy to go to work every day for 25 years and just stand there!! He's done nothing!!
Standing for something doesn't help anybody if you don't take any steps forwards.
seeker267 1 month ago
@seeker267 Seriously if you like Obama, you are way out there to me, man. He passed a bill that enables the US Military to detain US citizens without charge or trial for an indefinate length of time. The funny thing is... the original document had a section excluding citizens, but HE asked for that section to be taken out! There's an accomplishment for ya... passing fascist legislation in America.
joshfrmn 1 month ago