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This is for prodsmash2 - well, it depends on what you mean, exactly, by "understand," but, yes, I believe I do. Not everything by Hill - and certainly not his newer stuff - but quite a bit of his early and mid-career poetry. And when I first read that early stuff, I didn't understand it, or not intellectually. I find it takes time to understand Hill. In fact, I had a recent break-through with his Triumph of Love (later stuff): it's begun to make sense after appearing initially impenetrable.
I agree with you mstephe9 and would add the question, since when did poetry have to be so totally and immediately "understandable" for it to be enjoyed, or, indeed, good? What about the sheer love of the rhythms of language?
Funny, at its very best, Hill's poetry seems to me to make just about everything else that's out there seem like ideas for poems. He works in words - not ideas - like few others, which is one reason why his poetry is as difficult as it is: words aren't merely a transparent medium for ideas for him, they're the thing itself. See what Seamus Heaney has said about him to that effect.
mstephe9 thanks for your comments - but do you really understand Hill's poetry? It would be very easy for me to throw any one of a number at you and be guaranteed that (through no fault of your own) you'd be sinking in the mire.
Well, it depends on what you mean, exactly, by "understand," but, yes, I believe I do. Not everything by Hill - and not a lot of his newer stuff - but a fair bit of his early and mid-career poetry. And when I first read that early stuff, I didn't understand it, or not intellectually. I find it takes time to understand Hill. In fact, I had a recent break-through with his Triumph of Love (later stuff): it's begun to make sense. Let me throw some at you: Septemeber Song. Know it?
This indeed is the right place to say that Geoffrey Hill is not a poet - precisely when he is reciting a "translation" of somebody else's poem (which everybody is drooling over) rather than one of his own inpenetrable efforts!
Geoffrey: I guess I'll have settle for this virtual sighting. Wish you were still just up Beacon a ways . . . and I approve of the Moasaic beard . . .
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