What if the South won the Civil War in 1867??

The following is a hypothetical timeline in which a chain of events results in a southern victory in their darkest hour, their "valley forge". Lee and Johnston are heroes in the wake of the victory, and Lee goes down in history as the man who plucked the South from the brink of death

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[TheWhatdoesthatmean]

@megadonkey30 I'm not too much of a grammar nazi, but damn. If you're going to attempt to make a decent reply then at least look over your words first. That didn't make enough sense for me to reply to the subject.

[Voxpopuli1861]

@NativeNewYorkGuy Yeah, if I were from New York I'd be forever shamed and humiliated by how poorly your abundantly armed and supplied ancestors fought against poorly armed, barefoot southerners. Oh well. We got 300.000 before they conquered us. Now the desolate northern states like New York are losing electoral votes to the south. Ironic. No?

[backwoodsterrorist]

@901MovieMaker it didnt

[backwoodsterrorist]

@Voxpopuli1861 i agree that the southern forces were pathetically supplied and inept but hey...if you dont want the horns dont mess with the bull. south carolina fired the first shots...

[SimonEissen]

@SimonEissen And would Jimmy Carter have been elected president of the CSA?

[SimonEissen]

@SimonEissen There was really only one possible outcome in the struggle between north and south - a southern defeat was inevitable.

The only way the CSA would have been able to survive would have to industrialized and accepted waves of immigrants the way the north did.

And it would have to had abolished slavery.

In fact, why not an alternative history where the south becomes the bastion of racial equality and world leader in civil rights?

Would MLK have given his speech in Richmond?

[SimonEissen]

@SimonEissen The Confederacy's only hope was to undermine support for Lincoln by voters in the union states and bankers in the north and in London and Amsterdam.

If the Confederacy had been recognized as an independent nation by Britain or France and/or Lincoln was not re-elected in 1864 - the south would have 'won'.

However, a southern victory in the 1860's would not have been permanent.

A resumption of hostilities would have likely occurred as both nations expanded westward.

[SimonEissen]

Alternative history is second only to video/computer games as the most useless waste of time.

The Union had the manpower, the industrial capacity, the money and towards the end the logistics. A union military victory was fore-ordained and Gen. Lee knew it - that's why he undertook a campaign designed to have more political and psychological than military victories.

As long as Lincoln pursued the war, the North would win.

[ShellTrek]

I watched all the Videos tonight: I'm thinking that you guys need a Mother to just slap your faces silly! CANADA HERE!! We put you guys in your place 150 years ago... "Don't make us go down there again"!

[901MovieMaker]

@loubert95 No. It ended in 1865. He made a video on what would happen if it didn't happen exsactly as planed

[901MovieMaker]

When did west Virginia Join the Confederacy again?

[901MovieMaker]

Were is West Virginia. It became a state in 1863