"Ignore all that silly "logic" " - Logic does not dictate God's non-existence or His existence in terms of proof. It does however offer evidence that there is a massive deal of carefully balanced, life-enabling laws in this universe, which bear the marks of design. And design suggests a designer. As for final, empirical proof, Logic cannot help you here whether you're a theist or an atheist, and you know this.
"You know it's flat" - I thought it was banana shaped? Peace.
You know for a fact that we were not debating the roundness of the earth. That you compare your beliefs about God to the obviousness of the roundness of the earth is your own view, and your own opinion. It is "that clear" to -you-. So comparing it to the "roundness of the earth" to -me-, or to anyone who disagrees is arrogance at it's finest.
"You have the assumption It's banana shaped" - More strawmen. These are beginning to add up to nothing but ad hominems..
@MorpheusOmikron Ugh, I hate people who are so deluded they just assume anyone disagreeing with them is "justifying it to themself". Sure, I'll just continue sitting here and attempting to justify to myself the silly notion that the earth is round. You go and keep your peace in the assumption that it's banana-shaped, and ignore all that silly "logic", cause you know it's flat.
So you may continue "logical debate" with everyone here in, what I believe to be an attempt to justify your own position to yourself (ultimately), but I have no reason to join you in that, as all it "gains" me, even if I unfolded every truth in this universe to you, is a "swine who stomps on pearls", and my peace lost.
I already know I'm right, and I no longer have the intention of proving it to others. The only meaningful, life-changing truths in this universe have to be experienced. You cannot be told them, it is a waste of time to try. Philosophy, Theology, Science, they all fail in this regard to do anything but make preconceived notions clearer, regardless of veracity. And if that is not the prime meaning of these fields, that is how we've used them thus far, an excuse to delude ourselves.-c
@MorpheusOmikron Ah. So you're just gonna randomly claim you're right, and don't even plan on bringing any arguments to actually prove it? Sure, why not...
@MorpheusOmikron Yelling "your worldview is diseased!" - "No yours!" - "No yours!" isn't gonna get us anywhere. So instead of just yelling slogans at me, how about you actually bring forth an argument?
If the rebuttals I have heard have themselves been debunked, then great! Show me where? I'm very eager to learn. I'm specifically talking about all the points on Talkorigin's "Index to creationist claims" (google), videos by Potholer54, Extantdodo, Aronra, Thunderf00t, etc.
Funny? He wasn't funny, I'd say cocky and totally inane. Hey good job Kanbei for not stooping to his turd level.
FirebrandNIRE 2 months ago
@Mithcoriel
You can continue to justify your beliefs to yourself, but I'm done now. I will not serve as a vent for your never-ending need to spite God.
Goodbye, and may you find peace.
MorpheusOmikron 3 months ago
@Mithcoriel
(c)
"Ignore all that silly "logic" " - Logic does not dictate God's non-existence or His existence in terms of proof. It does however offer evidence that there is a massive deal of carefully balanced, life-enabling laws in this universe, which bear the marks of design. And design suggests a designer. As for final, empirical proof, Logic cannot help you here whether you're a theist or an atheist, and you know this.
"You know it's flat" - I thought it was banana shaped? Peace.
MorpheusOmikron 3 months ago
@Mithcoriel
You know for a fact that we were not debating the roundness of the earth. That you compare your beliefs about God to the obviousness of the roundness of the earth is your own view, and your own opinion. It is "that clear" to -you-. So comparing it to the "roundness of the earth" to -me-, or to anyone who disagrees is arrogance at it's finest.
"You have the assumption It's banana shaped" - More strawmen. These are beginning to add up to nothing but ad hominems..
(c)
MorpheusOmikron 3 months ago
@MorpheusOmikron Ugh, I hate people who are so deluded they just assume anyone disagreeing with them is "justifying it to themself". Sure, I'll just continue sitting here and attempting to justify to myself the silly notion that the earth is round. You go and keep your peace in the assumption that it's banana-shaped, and ignore all that silly "logic", cause you know it's flat.
Mithcoriel 3 months ago
@Mithcoriel
-c
So you may continue "logical debate" with everyone here in, what I believe to be an attempt to justify your own position to yourself (ultimately), but I have no reason to join you in that, as all it "gains" me, even if I unfolded every truth in this universe to you, is a "swine who stomps on pearls", and my peace lost.
Go your way, and may you find peace.
MorpheusOmikron 3 months ago
@Mithcoriel
I already know I'm right, and I no longer have the intention of proving it to others. The only meaningful, life-changing truths in this universe have to be experienced. You cannot be told them, it is a waste of time to try. Philosophy, Theology, Science, they all fail in this regard to do anything but make preconceived notions clearer, regardless of veracity. And if that is not the prime meaning of these fields, that is how we've used them thus far, an excuse to delude ourselves.-c
MorpheusOmikron 3 months ago
@MorpheusOmikron Ah. So you're just gonna randomly claim you're right, and don't even plan on bringing any arguments to actually prove it? Sure, why not...
Mithcoriel 3 months ago
@Mithcoriel
Why wait for something I never offered?
MorpheusOmikron 4 months ago
@MorpheusOmikron Yelling "your worldview is diseased!" - "No yours!" - "No yours!" isn't gonna get us anywhere. So instead of just yelling slogans at me, how about you actually bring forth an argument?
If the rebuttals I have heard have themselves been debunked, then great! Show me where? I'm very eager to learn. I'm specifically talking about all the points on Talkorigin's "Index to creationist claims" (google), videos by Potholer54, Extantdodo, Aronra, Thunderf00t, etc.
I'm waiting.
Mithcoriel 4 months ago