@esh325 It is. I think the origina, waffle pattern, steel AR magazines were the worst. The aluminum ones aren't bad, they just get used for far too long. Probably the worst STANAG compliant magazines are the ones Britain was using for the SA80 until they started buying EMAGs.
@Nater245689 It's a flawed mindset. To view an item critical for reliability as something disposable. The rifle will work only as well as the magazine does.
@esh325 It all goes back the the Garrand, really. The M1 used those disposable en bloc clips, which basically set the mind set for the US military on magazines. If someting is going to be a single use item, there is no reason to make it durable. At least they made them more durable than the French did with the FAMAS magazines. Those things are a constant source of issue for that rifle.
@esh325 No, they don't, but I've still found PMAGs to be pretty durable. Assuming they're using similar polymers, the Lancers should be even more durable. I've only had mine a few months, so I can't really say for certain.
@Mharhon And more durable. Having machined feed lips is not crude at all. None of the aluminum GI magazines had steel machined feed lips. And besides, you got polymer magazines today for the AK which are a good deal lighter.
@esh325 Well, the steel ones do. The bakelite and ABS AK magazines do no have machined feed lips, but they still have a very strong metal reinforcement cag molded in. Lancer did this with the most critical part, the feed lips, and I approve. I might buy the newest revision of the PMAG, but I'm probably going to stick with the Lancer AWM. Their opaque models are about the same price as the PMAG, the translucent smoke is about a dollar more.
Have you had problems with rounds popping out of the Lancer mags? I've found whenever they're loaded over 26 rounds and inserted hard in to the AR, the top round will sit in the chamber. If you load 31 rounds in the gun and strip rounds back out, they are just fine.
Can you load 5.45 in your pmag or Lancer? Or how about taking your cproducts follower and putting then in your lancer? would it work? or does it work?
@esh325 they're also a great deal heavier than almost any AR-15 magazine. There's nothing "smarter" about pursuing the most crude design and manufacturing methods possible. Practical? Yes. Smarter? Hells no.
@esh325 It is. I think the origina, waffle pattern, steel AR magazines were the worst. The aluminum ones aren't bad, they just get used for far too long. Probably the worst STANAG compliant magazines are the ones Britain was using for the SA80 until they started buying EMAGs.
Nater245689 2 weeks ago
@Nater245689 It's a flawed mindset. To view an item critical for reliability as something disposable. The rifle will work only as well as the magazine does.
esh325 2 weeks ago
@esh325 It all goes back the the Garrand, really. The M1 used those disposable en bloc clips, which basically set the mind set for the US military on magazines. If someting is going to be a single use item, there is no reason to make it durable. At least they made them more durable than the French did with the FAMAS magazines. Those things are a constant source of issue for that rifle.
Nater245689 2 weeks ago
@esh325 No, they don't, but I've still found PMAGs to be pretty durable. Assuming they're using similar polymers, the Lancers should be even more durable. I've only had mine a few months, so I can't really say for certain.
Nater245689 2 weeks ago
@Nater245689 The lancer magazines are impressive. PMAG's don't even have any steel insert like the Lancers.
esh325 2 weeks ago
@Mharhon And more durable. Having machined feed lips is not crude at all. None of the aluminum GI magazines had steel machined feed lips. And besides, you got polymer magazines today for the AK which are a good deal lighter.
esh325 2 weeks ago
@esh325 Well, the steel ones do. The bakelite and ABS AK magazines do no have machined feed lips, but they still have a very strong metal reinforcement cag molded in. Lancer did this with the most critical part, the feed lips, and I approve. I might buy the newest revision of the PMAG, but I'm probably going to stick with the Lancer AWM. Their opaque models are about the same price as the PMAG, the translucent smoke is about a dollar more.
Nater245689 2 weeks ago
Have you had problems with rounds popping out of the Lancer mags? I've found whenever they're loaded over 26 rounds and inserted hard in to the AR, the top round will sit in the chamber. If you load 31 rounds in the gun and strip rounds back out, they are just fine.
evgeneiac 1 year ago
Can you load 5.45 in your pmag or Lancer? Or how about taking your cproducts follower and putting then in your lancer? would it work? or does it work?
clap5 1 year ago
@esh325 they're also a great deal heavier than almost any AR-15 magazine. There's nothing "smarter" about pursuing the most crude design and manufacturing methods possible. Practical? Yes. Smarter? Hells no.
Mharhon 1 year ago