Writers Ellen Kushner and Delia Sherman talk about the origins of fantasy of manners which drew from a variety of sources including pre-Raphaelite painters, Victorian novelists, and "Man from U.N.C.L.E." in addition to icons C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien. Plus the truth about how the movement was named, a plug for the upcoming release of Bordertown, and a brief digression on the usefulness of modesty.
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