PFLAG Oklahoma City Sits Down with Sally Kern (Pt 1)

PFLAG Oklahoma City's Rev. Jim Shields, Rev. Dr. Kathy McCallie and PFLAG Oklahoma City Chapter president Rev. Loyce Newton-Edwards sat down to meet recently with Rep. Sally Kern to discuss concern over her remarks. Hear what Sally Kern has to say... (Part 1 of 5)

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[xenafan33]

Sally Kern is an IDIOT!!!!

[auntiebembem]

It's nice that Sally Kern and PFLAG were able to sit down and talk. But it's awkward that they can only talk to each other in Christian terms. The PFLAG members describe their beliefs eloquently, but it all boils down to a disagreement over scripture, especially the stumbling block that Ms. Kern believes homosexuality is a sin whereas the PFLAG members don't. Our laws should not be based on one's particular religious beliefs, regardless of whether those beliefs are pro- or anti-gay rights.

[myw67]

America was built on religious freedom, its is not a particular religion or faith but the right to have any and all religion or faith. the founding fathers where enlightened thinkers who opposed religious intolerance that why people love this country. my religion is against gays but there is nothing that says that I have to go out of my way to oppress them. this chick is retarded.

[macrent2]

Sally Kern is an ignorant bitch!

[MamaMario13]

who cares about the economy or the environment just as long as there arent any gays in Hick-lahoma

[MageSutek]

I love people who thank civil, elected officials for "giving" them an audience. I am sure Ms. Kern was VERY busy.

[pratsha45]

@auntiebembem the Christian right doesn't believe in separation of church and state.....want to piss them off? Challenge them by asking if they would support a candidate who would support pushing sharia on the country because they're muslim - then their hypocracy shows!!!

[chicraig6421]

@tripleJ1955 Thanks for your comments, and I agree. Lev 19:11-18 is for me, very much like the Commendments. I really don't spend much time there (Lev) with all the slave, stoning, and hate stuff. Basic law is basic law, then and now. But as you say much is 'out dated'

My God bless you

[tripleJ1955]

@chicraig6421 "Thanks, I don't understand how one can just pick one verse"

Some would call picking a verse here and a verse there , "selective morality", the truth as far as I'm concerned is that while many Mosaic laws simply cannot be applied to modern times, there are still several that apply as well today as they did 4000 yrs. ago. There are several commands in Lev. chapter 19 that if followed by all, would make this a better world, give it a quick read.

Anyway, enough out of me, good luck.

[chicraig6421]

@tripleJ1955 Thanks, I don't understand how one can just pick one verse from Lev 18:22 and not consider the verses above or below. You know the one, shell fish, cloth, goats, 'unclean' in church, women shut up and the rest. All the stoning reminds me of Iran present day, and way out of touch with this century.

[tripleJ1955]

@chicraig6421 "Do u defend Sally Kern?" Hell no, I don't defend that crazy woman. I also don't buy any of the mosaic laws from the old testament, including Lev. 18:22. I still stand by what I said insofar as 18:22 condemning male homosexuality, it's spelled out loud and clear to those that take it literally as it was intended by the authors. To lie with a woman in the biblical sense, is to have intercourse with. So the passage "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind" is clear to me.

[chicraig6421]

@tripleJ1955 Thanks again for the lesson, Im just a person who reads the Bible, not a preacher,teacher or theist. I again I ask you about Lev and why you only site some verses and not other. When was the last time anyone you know sacrifices a goat, or eat shell fish, and you the know rest. I don't understand why it is so hard to see the 7 verses are all about ancient world common practice sex acts that were/are wrong? Nothing about being a homo there. Do u defend Sally Kern?