Re: Anarchism is Libertarian Socialism by Anarch0tec
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@anarkoFred VIVE NEFAC
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@anarkoFred yes,
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libertarianism can be reduced to the non-aggression principle. it's a form of negative liberty. this means being free FROM something. (aggression, violence, coercion, etc.)
socialism is a form of positive liberty in that it constitutes freedom OF/TOWARDS something.
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Agreed completely. I don't know if I have said this here before, but "Markets" and a "Free Market System" isn't inherently corrupt. It's when capitalists (and others) get their hands on it that it turns to shit.
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That seems a reasonable answer and it sounds good to me.
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worker-controlled businesses are the basis of a socialist economy. if a "free market" economy does not require a hierarchical structure of "management" within the company (an "employer" and "employee"), then that definition of a free market is not incompatible with socialism.
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If those self-managed business can freely produce and trade that's pretty much a market economy don't you think ? Do you think it is compatible with a socialist economy ? Is self-managed business enough for an economy to be socialist ?
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You're right, it's certainly not impossible. And it's a lot better- and in the long run, easier- than the alternative (what we have now)
libertarianism is fundamentally a negative position. socialism is a positive position. i'm not a libertarian to the point of considering anything in it's place irrelevant. likewise, i'm not a socialist by any means necesarry. plenty socialists have willingly accepted corporatism, so yes. the term is relevant to distinguish my position.
fede2 2 years ago
"libertarianism is fundamentally a negative position"
"socialism is a positive position"
How so?
SocialAnarchism 2 years ago
You're right:
Individual freedom cannot exist in the absence of a free society, in which people's rights and humanity are respected. Socialism is the only economic system which makes a truly free society possible; therefore it is also the only system that allows freedom on a personal/individual level.
TheTollundWoman 2 years ago
It's the only way that I see things working out. Noam Chomsky points out that libertarian socialism is the the best viable option for society.
We have a long way to go, but it isn't an impossible road by any means.
SocialAnarchism 2 years ago