What Must I Do To Be Saved? Craig vs Ally (HQ) 4/12

This is the full debate in high quality between Dr. William Lane Craig and Shabir Ally at York University in Canada from March 5, 2002.

The Debaters:

Dr. William Lane Craig is an internationally renowned Christian philosopher and apologist. He pursued his undergraduate studies at Wheaton College (B.A. 1971) and graduate studies at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School (M.A. 1974; M.A. 1975), the University of Birmingham (England) (Ph.D. 1977), and the University of Munich (Germany) (D.Theol. 1984).

Shabir Ally is president of the Islamic Information and Dawah Centre International in Toronto and is a speaker and debater of rising prominence. He is currently working towards his Ph.D. in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto in Canada.

.....................................THE DEBATE......................................
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[villaessaouira]

shabir make lot of sence

[YHWHisElohim]

Mr. Ally misses the fact that God made a covenant with Abraham that requires blood atonement.

So YES. The Islamic concept is COMPLETELY opposed to the concept of God in Judaism.

[julio14335]

What is the justification of BLOOD SACRIFICE on earth as well as in Heaven. Will mother Teresa pays the same price as Hitler does?

[shanlaska]

Lol I love shabir, may Allah inshallah help all Muslims, n make dumb pple c the real side if Islam inshallah!

[Legend1One]

@38387205 ... Continued...

Therefore, no "BLOOD SACRAFICE" is required. Stop going to Chruch, being brain washed by your pastor, and READ YOUR BIBLE AT HOME, and then get a Quran and READ IT! I hope you follow through with the suggestion I have given you. Enjoy your day.

[Legend1One]

@38387205 ...Cont

Ezekiel 18

30 "..Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin."

Mark 1

15 "... "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

And in numerous place throughout the OT and NT Repentance is all that is required for salvation. In-fact, READ the Gospels of Mathew and Mark, and you will find JTB and Jesus (PBUH) preaching repentance and forgiveness to be saved, same as Islam.

[Legend1One]

@38387205

YOU said: "The Bible is quite clear on the issue of sins being forgiven at the spilling of blood"

Consider your fully Ezekiel 18

21But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

22All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

Continued...

[DesertFoxThe]

The verses that Ally refers to (Psalms 5:4-6) have nothing to do with God hating sinners, it says He is disgusted by sin, and that He will punish sin.

[sunnahproduction]

@YHWHisElohim i dont understand these satanic blood rituals that christians and jews are involved in.

Judism: the rabbi sucks the blood when a jewish child is circumcised

Christianity: they drink wine and think it is the blood of Jesus(Heaven forbide) this lie was made so people in europe can make their wineyards.

However The Covenent was clear, it is the circumcised of all males.. also muslims are the only group that blesses the family of Ibrahim(pbuH) in every pray.. christians&jews dont do it

[Lindemann04109]

You Christians and You Muslims are BOTH Wrong. Jesus was not the Jewish Messiah or a Messiah of any kind. He was not a Prophet, or a messenger or what ever. He was not born of a virgin. He was in fact Crucified and also died. He was Jewish. Noting more, nothing less. See, Your Both Wrong.

[38387205]

@YHWHisElohim

The Bible is quite clear on the issue of sins being forgiven at the spilling of blood; “To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifice unto Me?, saith the Lord. I am full of burnt offerings of rams and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks or of lamb or of he-goats.” Isaiah 1:11

[Kailoa36]

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. They're both stark staring mad!