Cruel Logic

A brilliant serial killer videotapes his debates with college faculty victims. The topic: His moral right to kill them. Writted and directed by Brian Godawa.

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Entertainment

Tags:

• cruel
• logic
• brian
• godawa
• evolution
• morality
• debate
• thriller

[GmRebelliousV]

"You won't survive, I will", NO, you stupid fucking bastard, if you think that killing someone else  strengthens your survival then you are just dumb and seek pathetic reasons to satisfy your fucked up will to kill. If everyone would think like that then our species would certainly not survive.

[GmRebelliousV]

this is wannabe smart but in reality its an intellectual bullshit

[Ken14Z]

@bill4long What else is there to say? I disliked this video because it was too focused on the closed-minded, "logical" scientists who believe it is 100% DNA. They are the MINORITY just so you know. 98% of all neuroscientists, you know. the people who study the brain, will tell you a brain is more conditioned than it is genetic. Neuropathways are changing every second of every day, but we are born with a starting point. I fail to understand why that would get me more killed than saved.

[Ken14Z]

@bill4long Yes. What I would say to someone who has high influence over whether I live or die is what I believe to be true. I don't understand what else I would say. I would say to him "Yep I believe your personality starts as a DNA trait and then is molded and conditioned by society, because we do have choices. Morality is more conditioned than it is genetic, either by outside influences or internal influences... but to say it is ONLY one or the other is absolutely absurd."

[bill4long]

@Ken14Z that is what you would say to your tormenter in an attempt to save your life?

[Ken14Z]

@bill4long I would say exactly what I just said there. DNA is where morality STARTS. Then you have how your brain gets wired (I say GETS wired, because that is conditioning).

If anyone says it's one or the other ONLY is uneducated. Our brains are not a blank slate, but it's not something we can't overcome either. Everything about our brains we CAN change, and the place it started determines how difficult or easy that task would be.

[bill4long]

@Ken14Z what would YOU say if you were the professor strapped down in the chair in an attempt to save your life?

[Ken14Z]

"Our species won't survive if we allow killing."

"You mean you won't survive. I will."

No, he means if killing were the norm. And it isn't. And it won't be, because our morality is determined by DNA first and conditioning second.

Every neuroscientist knows serial killers have a specific brain that is INHERITED first, and CONDITIONED second.

There's a middle ground here, but both sides are too busy fighting to consider this.

[wiley16350]

If someone believes that people can still be held responsible despite what their DNA determines them to do then he could give moral arguments although it seems inconsistent. But thats not what the professor believed. The professor believed people should not be held accountable for what their DNA determines they will do. That is what the killer was testing. The professor therefore failed his theory and belief. Unless I'm missing the point of the movie.

[wiley16350]

@izzytjkcmd I guess you have to explain why it's question begging. If a person believes that people will do what their DNA determines they will do then he has to accept that his fate is to be killed by the killer. The professor also believes that people can't be held accountable for what they do because it is determined by their DNA (This is what the killer is testing, does he really believe that) then he has no reason to accuse the killer of wrong or give moral reasons in defense.