Kissaki-Kai Nijushiho Kata Bunkai
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Somehow, when training with the JKA in Japan, the first technique in nijushi was done moving backwards which negates this bunkai. How about a wrist grab with the right hand, sliding back, upsetting the opponents balance and an arm bar to the floor with the left hand?
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All karate is like that. It's just a matter of the practitioner seeking the right teacher willing to teach this info. This is Koryu.
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@kissakikai Your an awesome martial artist and Instructor
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brilliant ! also if you compare Nijushiho with uechi ryu basic combinations (like the hiji uke part) the beauty of Nijushiho reveals it self more and more. It is my favorit Kata and i love to see it performed by Tatsuja Naka. Like Water!
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I am sure that there were once realistic bunkai for many of our katas but it had to be lost somewhere between Okinawa and Mainland Japan. I wonder if even Funakoshi ever really knew useful bunkai.....those who came after him certainly did not.
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@25500 The kata is a catalog or moving text to help the student remember self defense techniques. It is not a dance to help you look pretty or impress yourself.
Kata techniques cannot be used in a practical sense if you are in a long basic shotokan stance, and must be modified in order to make it street effective. If you doubt this, go pick a fight and stand in a back stance and see what happens.
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I love this block. It is very effective in real life.
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In addition @25500, you have to remember that the Shotokan version of this kata is not the only one. It also exists in many other styles, sometimes by the same name but also as Niseishi. Each school has different ways of performing it. The shotokan version is almost certainly not the original version and thus, the movements in the kata were modified, possibly simply for aesthetic reasons and not practical ones. So, don't get so hung up on a hand being above or below another one.
I would really love to train with you but I fear you're too far... do you have a website?
Obsidian1392 1 year ago
@Obsidian1392 No problem go to kissakikaiDOTcom for distance-learning, or kissakikaratreDOTcom for more information. Send us your email address for free newsletters. Best wishes
kissakikai 1 year ago
Hi - we have a distance-learning website - kissakikai.(prefx - usual 3 ws ends with a dotcom)
kissakikai 1 year ago
Yes yes, but if what you say in the first movements of the kata is true, what you say is the real meaning of the kata, then why extending your arms at a lower level than the real one? why do the kata so different than the real movements?
25500 2 years ago
Hi
Thanks for the question
First, if you saw the whole DVD you'd see a number of different bunkai, some with the arms exactly as the Kata shows. The small clip on Youtube only covers a fraction of the content.
Second, early Kata especially are like shorthand - they do NOT show exactly the waza, but hint at it to those who know, as the waza was frequently kept secret by the master.
If the moves were always as shown there would be no 'ura' only 'omote'
My regards ~ Vince Morris
kissakikai 2 years ago
You don't seem to have understood either the nature of Kata, or my original remarks that the waza denote more than one application. Plus Kata are like Pitmans Shorthand, they stand for, or suggest, reminders of techniques - they do not, nor were ever meant to - show exactly the technique. If they did, then where would be the secrecy demanded by many of the Okinawa masters?
kissakikai 2 years ago