Pre-Trans Fallacy - Ken Wilber applied to UK Riots/ Occupy

http://integrationtraining.co.uk/ The "pre-trans fallacy" from Ken Wilber discussed by Mark Walsh of Integration Training as applied to the recent riots and the Occupy movement. Also to spiritual books from The Secret to Tich Nat Han to quantum physics to neuroscience. Pre and post conventional levels are discussed and how to differentiate a silly hippie from an uptight scientist. With added cute baby pics.

Based on my limited understanding and simplifying what is quite a complex developmental issue into a very short video, so please excuse any mistakes.

Thanks also to Miles from Israel for encouraging me to make a video on the "pre-tranny" :-) issue

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[monkeybrainsmediauk]

Not sure why you name the "dawkins" one the way you did. Having read and listened to a large of his writings and talks, I can't actually think of any concrete examples where he bashes anything you would class as post trans. Can you point to some examples? He mostly bashes the same superstitious things you do.

[IntegrationTraining]

@monkeybrainsmediauk I actually like Dawkins a lot, big fan of his as a kid. Just having a bit of fun there with a very scientific, "hard-nosed" fellow who I'm sure could handle it.

[JAYDUBYAH29]

good job mate! a rare level of analysis...

[IntegrationTraining]

@JAYDUBYAH29 thanks appreciated, what's your interest in integral?



[JAYDUBYAH29]

@IntegrationTraining studied wilber in depth since about 1990 - have written a lot about his work online, was interviewed by him for integral naked in 2006 on the pre/trans fallacy in 'the secret" and "what the bleep". i am a yoga/meditation/bodywork/ecsta­tic dance teacher and integrate some of wilbers work into what i do. :)

[IntegrationTraining]

@JAYDUBYAH29 cool, an integral approach to the body is also my thing

[nickharvey7]

Neat vid!

I am an artist trying to promote my theory on the dynamics of light and time.

This theory is based on two postulates

1. Is that the quantum wave particle function represents the forward passage of time itself

2. Is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle that is formed by the w- function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event.

This process of continuous change we see and feel as the flow of time itself and can interact with turning the possible into the actual!

[IntegrationTraining]

comments welcome