God Killed Jesus (Responsibility & Christianity)

The Christian tradition has attempted to hold a number of people and things responsible for the execution of Jesus, but analysis reveals that the only one responsible for it is the Christian god.

Isn't it a sin only when a person does something God does NOT want the person to do?

Carl Ginet's "In Defense of the Principle of Alternative Possibilities: Why I Don't Find Frankfurt's Argument Convincing": http://www.jstor.org/pss/2216254

By the way, I've gotten a lot of comments and questions about the notion that Jesus' death should be viewed as a suicide or felo-de-se. That seems quite reasonable to me given what appears in the New Testament -- see, e.g., John 10:17-18 ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2010:17-18&version=NASB ). Moreover, as Raymond Brown points out in his "The Death of the Messiah", a number of early Christian writers believed Jesus' death to have been miraculous and completely under Jesus' control. See, e.g., Tertullian, who in his Apology claims that on the cross Jesus "with a word expressing his own will dismissed his spirit, forestalling the work of the executioners." (Link to the quoted section of Tertullian's Apology: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf03.iv.iii.xxi.html ) In short, Jesus killed himself.

Music (intro and outro): "All Glory, Laud, and Honor"

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[FreeformTao]

Awesome video. I've just recently took a class where they taught the "If This Then That" mathematical concepts. This is think they should teach every year in school (instead of a specialized blip in Liberal Arts Math in college) so that folks can understand how 'critical thinking' works & that it is a skill that CAN be developed.

[ProfMTH]

@FreeformTao Thanks very much.

[itsmisterbojangles]

ok.....1Thes. 1:14-15 doesn't say anything about Jews killing Jesus or the wrath of God or anything. In fact, that chapter doesn't even have 16 verses. Secondly, Jesus laid his own life down...no one could have killed him without his allowance, and nobody "had" to kill Jesus...As Christ laid his life down, his enemies chose to persecute him, fulfilling the prophecies because God(aka Jesus) already knew what they would do. See John 10:15-17.

[ProfMTH]

@itsmisterbojangles "1Thes. 1:14-15 doesn't say anything about Jews killing Jesus or the wrath of God or anything"

It was a typo, which is why I put an annotation into the video noting that it's 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15.

[shitthrowingmonkey1]

To a video like this, the calvinists would always say... Who art thou, O man, to question god?!?!

[ProfMTH]

@shitthrowingmonkey1 Yep. That's usually what I get from Calvinists. Some try more, but it usually fails to get very far. 

[tcamp007]

Hey, you forgot to put IS. 53:10 into the video. "It pleased God to bruise him..."

[followgood]

@atheistram You will see

[followgood]

@atheistram Your wrong...."this generation" read it and pay attention, He meant a specific generation...ours!!

[atheistram]

@followgood You're brother is a psycho.

[atheistram]

@followgood LOL... you're kidding me right. Jesus predicted in (guess where) THE BIBLE that the tribulation would come during his apostles lifetimes. Guess what?? It didn't happen.

So Jesus was a liar.

I'd suggest you OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND ACTUALLY READ IT.

[atheistram]

@followgood Why should someone repent to a genocidal motherfucker??

[atheistram]

@followgood No, you failed to understand my comment (typical of fundamentalists). I meant evidence that would convert me.

[followgood]

@cfc19900 No I can not speak in tongues, but my brother can, he's more connected than I am, but I will try, lol. take care.

[cfc19900]

@followgood Nah. Are you gonna speak in tongues next?

[followgood]

@cfc19900 You will be one of the first repenting when the tribulation begins, and that will be very soon, see you in heaven brother