Raymond Davis case - Barack Obama, BADLY ill-informed on Vienna Conventions on Consular Relations

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Raymond Davis case - Barack Obama, BADLY ill-informed on Vienna Conventions on Consular Relations

President Barack Obama makes a statement during a news conference on the White House complex in Washington, Tuesday, Feb. 15, 2011. -- AP Photo/Charles Dharapak

n his first public remarks on a case that has cast a chill over an already uneasy partnership, Obama said that detained official Raymond Davis enjoyed diplomatic immunity under the Vienna Conventions.

"We expect Pakistan... to abide by the same convention," Obama told a news conference.

"We're going to be continuing to work with the Pakistani government to get this person released," he said.

Prez Obama is misinformed about the Vienna convention: Here is the relevant law:

The US State Department is also carefully avoiding mentioning a later treaty, the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 1963. That treaty, which extends and further clarifies, and where there may be a conflict, would supersede the earlier treaty, states in Section II, Article 41 in its first paragraph regarding the "Personal inviolability of consular officers":

Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority.

The law here would seem to be quite clear. If Davis was in Lahore on anything other than official consular business, and if he killed two people "in cold blood" as the Lahore prosecutor has stated, then legal authorities in Pakistan are absolutely within their rights under the Vienna Conventions to be holding him for trial.

"Obviously, we're concerned about the loss of life. We're not callous about that, but there is a broader principle at stake," Obama said.

The real BROADER PRINCIPLE is the rule of Law and operation of judiciary without PRESSURE.

The Vienna 63-41 is very clear that Raymond Davis is to be tried in the court of the land where he committed the crime and executed for murder - if the court finds him guilty.

Obama said that diplomatic immunity was critical because otherwise diplomats who "deliver to tough messages to countries where we disagree with them" will "start being vulnerable to prosecution locally." "That's untenable. It means they can't do their job," Obama said.

It is untenable if a immunity is claimed for a criminal and he or she is labelled as diplomat.

I can claim that the alleged murderer of Chandra Levy has diplomatic immunity. Also there is no proof if she assaulted him as Monica assaulted Bill Clinton.

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  • We need to prevent the Obama + Kerry Frontal Assault to Free the DOUBLE MURDER Davis to be freed from Pakistan.

    As soon as he is caught, the DRONES have stopped. whether there is a causal or correlative relation, he is a valuable GOLDMINE of information and should be thoroughly questioned and can be broken down. As a redneck he will break fast just by questioning in a certain way.

    It can be done without water boarding. The bigger his ego the more fragile it actually is.

    tell kerry its kosher

  • Its unsound for other countries also get their citizens killed by terrorists like Raymond Polansky Davis. He is INDEED CALLOUS and this NEOCON principle of denying what exactly is the truth. The criminal admitted that he is just a consultant. he had an illegal weapon and wireless set. Pakistan is not callous but the criminal will be executed by hanging after a trial where US has the opportunity to present its defense at its own expense.

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  • Guess what? Our corrupted government let him go.

  • Obama is running a global terror scam ...... top-secret CIA documents found in Davis's possession point to his, and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in order to re-establish the West's hegemony over a Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse,"

  • its all crap obama knows very well davis is guilty and i dont understand why someone in pakistan just pay some money undertable and finish this matter there in pakistan before davis left. there are so many people who will take money to take him down.

  • If Obama really wants to help the economy, get out of Afghanistan.

  • O americans stop fooling people. where was this vienna convention when Taliban diplomat to pakistan Mula zaeef was arrested from Paksitan by u and put in guantanamoba for several years. where was this................shame

  • @ISOCYANATEinBHOPAL Yes! Stand up!

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    A later treaty, the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 1963. That treaty, which extends & further clarifies, & where there may be a conflict, would supersede the earlier treaty, states in Section II, Article 41 in its first paragraph regarding the "Personal inviolability of consular officers":

    Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority.

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