@LiveActionFilms Did you or did you not provide Planned Parenthood with a check with a note specifying that the donation was to underwrite the abortions of Black women, or in any way make a donation that was explicitly conditional upon the funds being used to abort the fetuses of Black women?
@Nullifidian Except that Planned Parenthood doesn't dispute the content and even put staff on leave following the video releases and admitted to lapses in judgement. There is major media news coverage of this video series. It isn't just a one off video but a documented pattern.
@LiveActionFilms So then did you provide Planned Parenthood with a check that they accepted for underwriting the abortions of Black people? If yes, you're complicit in what you want to condemn (both abortion and alleged racism) and if no, then this is mere chaff meant to disguise the issue. And no, I didn't watch all the videos. I have better things to do with my time than sit down and watch all the crap you people produce, especially as the contents of the videos can never be verified.
@Nullifidian If the donation is marked as such on a check, it must be used exactly for that purpose or returned. Please go read an accounting book on restricted funds. If funds are accepted for a purpose that does not currently exist, a new account must be created within the accounting system for that purpose. Instead of arguing with me, go do some reading. I hold an accounting degree and used to work in investment banking including holding the highest management licensing (S24) through FINRA.
...the money, they would accept it regardless. That does not impose upon PP an obligation to start a Black-women-only abortion fund, as you know full well. It would only be an issue if they had *promised* to start one as a condition of receiving the money, but you didn't dare to have your fake caller make that condition explicit. Again, you show your utter lack of ethics and honesty by not only dreaming up this stunt, but also coming up with tortured rationalizations for why PP is in the wrong.
@LiveActionFilms Actually, that is exactly an absurd reading. It's fraud if a charity takes money with the understanding that it will go to food for a food bank and instead spends it on a Ferrari for the boss. It is not fraud if an organization that provides abortions takes money for abortions. There was no promise, either explicit or implicit, that they were going to directly fund the abortions of Black women. All the person said was regardless of the reason your fake caller had for donating...
@Nullifidian That isn't an "absurd" reading. That is established non-profit and accounting legal responsibility. Enforcement is usually low but it is fraud to promise funds be used one way and then use them another.
"...obligated to monitor the patients they see by race, and give your 'donation' back or face prosecution if no Black woman ever sought an abortion..."
-- They wouldn't ever be in trouble unless they spent the funds for something else. They have a fiduciary responsibility.
Apparently, LiveActionFilms doesn't have time to watch the videos, but time to comment over and over. Maybe afraid of the truth?
HappyToBeKLB 2 months ago
@LiveActionFilms Did you or did you not provide Planned Parenthood with a check with a note specifying that the donation was to underwrite the abortions of Black women, or in any way make a donation that was explicitly conditional upon the funds being used to abort the fetuses of Black women?
Nullifidian 4 months ago
@Nullifidian Except that Planned Parenthood doesn't dispute the content and even put staff on leave following the video releases and admitted to lapses in judgement. There is major media news coverage of this video series. It isn't just a one off video but a documented pattern.
LiveActionFilms 4 months ago
@LiveActionFilms So then did you provide Planned Parenthood with a check that they accepted for underwriting the abortions of Black people? If yes, you're complicit in what you want to condemn (both abortion and alleged racism) and if no, then this is mere chaff meant to disguise the issue. And no, I didn't watch all the videos. I have better things to do with my time than sit down and watch all the crap you people produce, especially as the contents of the videos can never be verified.
Nullifidian 4 months ago
@Nullifidian Did you watch all the videos?
"CALLER: Could I specify those abortions be done for a particular minority group? How does that work? PP: If you wish, you can."
CALLER: Abortions will be done specifically for, black community abortions.
PLANNED PARENTHOOD: "I will mark it in such a way that definitely it will"
LiveActionFilms 4 months ago
@Nullifidian If the donation is marked as such on a check, it must be used exactly for that purpose or returned. Please go read an accounting book on restricted funds. If funds are accepted for a purpose that does not currently exist, a new account must be created within the accounting system for that purpose. Instead of arguing with me, go do some reading. I hold an accounting degree and used to work in investment banking including holding the highest management licensing (S24) through FINRA.
LiveActionFilms 4 months ago
...the money, they would accept it regardless. That does not impose upon PP an obligation to start a Black-women-only abortion fund, as you know full well. It would only be an issue if they had *promised* to start one as a condition of receiving the money, but you didn't dare to have your fake caller make that condition explicit. Again, you show your utter lack of ethics and honesty by not only dreaming up this stunt, but also coming up with tortured rationalizations for why PP is in the wrong.
Nullifidian 4 months ago
@LiveActionFilms Actually, that is exactly an absurd reading. It's fraud if a charity takes money with the understanding that it will go to food for a food bank and instead spends it on a Ferrari for the boss. It is not fraud if an organization that provides abortions takes money for abortions. There was no promise, either explicit or implicit, that they were going to directly fund the abortions of Black women. All the person said was regardless of the reason your fake caller had for donating...
Nullifidian 4 months ago
@Nullifidian If you want to learn more about this, pick a college level non-profit accounting textbook. I'm sure there are cheap used ones online.
LiveActionFilms 4 months ago
@Nullifidian That isn't an "absurd" reading. That is established non-profit and accounting legal responsibility. Enforcement is usually low but it is fraud to promise funds be used one way and then use them another.
"...obligated to monitor the patients they see by race, and give your 'donation' back or face prosecution if no Black woman ever sought an abortion..."
-- They wouldn't ever be in trouble unless they spent the funds for something else. They have a fiduciary responsibility.
LiveActionFilms 4 months ago