Daniel Kitson - 2004 Melbourne Comedy Festival

The story of the pidgeon

Category:

Comedy

Tags:

• pidgeon
• melbourne
• comedy
• festival
• gala
• 2004
• daniel
• kitson

[matthewmalpeli]

People who upload out of sync vids to YouTube should be executed in the most vile way imaginable

[RoughOutlineProduce]

@tuaca1 De-constructing comedy and doing comedy aren't mutually exclusive, Stewart Lee does both at the same time and it is piss your pants funny.

[ChristopherDone]

Sure is pretentious in here.

[troyundroy1]

I was university-accepted once

[3rdAutisticCuckoo]

@Szaam Well of course there will be those who attempt this kind of comedy and fail, and university draws plenty of people who crave to be *seen* as intelligent. So they do what they think other people will see as intelligent, trying to impress them - and this is pretension. But when a comedian does what he/she actually finds funny themselves, the kind of thing they would want to see on a stage, then they know at least someone likes it, and maybe they'll find an audience who shares their taste.

[Szaam]

@3rdAutisticCuckoo Of course, and I'm not being entirely objective myself, it's just how I think it comes across. I'd say that Stewart Lee especially is very university-accepted, in a simple sense. I'm at university now, and there's plenty of students who love to be pedantic and pretentious with anything they can, comedy being a great one. They don't represent Stewart Lee very well I'd say.

[3rdAutisticCuckoo]

@Szaam But some people *like* that kind of humour, because they have that kind of mind. It's never going to be universally appreciated, but it has it's place. Of course there will be those who attempt it but fall short, but done well it's something that I, for one, am grateful for.

[Szaam]

@JessLaJess That's a good point. But there's a thin line between intelligence and pretension. As said, it's not to say I disrespect them at all.

[JessLaJess]

@Szaam Anything is comedic if it makes you laugh. Deconstruction is hilarious because it shows us why we laugh at certain things. Furthermore, it's one of the toughest things to get a laugh from. I've been doing stand up for five years and I've seen maybe a handful of people in the world do it in a funny way. You can call it pretentious, that's your view, but most people here find it intelligent.

[Szaam]

Deconstructing comedy isn't necessarily comedic. If anything, it often ruins comedy, in the same way that music journalism ruins music. It over-analyses something natural and wonderful, and as a result that thing becomes too objectively judged, rather than subjectively experienced. And as much as I respect the likes of Stewart Lee and Daniel Kitson, I feel this brand of comedy will always come across as pretentious because of how overly-analytical and theoretical it is towards comedy.

[richepworth]

@TheLooseTube you can listen to his 2005 gig on his website, but no video unfortunately.

[Biddey]

@tuaca1 Whatever you think of Stewart Lee. To say that his only material is deconstructing comedy is just wrong. He may use it but if you take the example of his comparison between living in the countryside and living in the city. That bit doesn't rely on the deconstruction of comedy at all and nor do many other topics he talks about.