The Value of Faith

What is the value of faith? Is it a priceless gift to the soul or a worthless curse on the intellect?

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[SRobacker]

Faith is essentially "trusting." So we say you are trusting in Jesus Christ that he is going to raise you up later on. We know that Christ did exist. So we are trusting that he told us the truth that he knew.

But yes, if you believe, lets say, that there is no car coming and you walk into the street. If the car really was there, then your faith was fallacious.

[tillnow67]

@SRobacker So you are "trusting" someone who lived thousands of years ago (a fact you are also "trusting" as opposed to knowing) and claimed to be the son of god. Would you TRUST someone you met today who told you they were god? I doubt it. So why would you trust the writings of primitive middle eastern goat herders, people notorious for following any yahoo who claimed to be the messiah? That's ridiculous

[Brother563]

Foolish man, your "WISDOM" has destroyed your common sense. I really feel sorrow for your soul which the devil laughs at, and laughs at your clever conceited superiority. Hell is plum full your type who beg for another chance, now that they are new believers. Repent before its too late. Also stay away from churches and religions, they are a trap. Just call out to Jesus!

[tillnow67]

Oh grow up and quit spouting fairy tales as if they were true.

[punchdrunkatheist]

This is an old post but this make one of the best points I've ever heard about faith and it's dispersion among beliefs.

[punchdrunkatheist]

@Brother563 Unless you're a different Christian organization, then it could be purgatory who is full of it. Might be something else. That would depend on your beliefs and expansion of knowledge about other beliefs. Funny, huh?

[atheistkyo]

if you have faith

your an idiot

[tillnow67]

@yeahhohkay I respect other peoples RIGHTS to have their own beliefs, but that doesn't mean I respect what they believe. If you believe something ridiculous then you have the right to hold and express that belief, but you don't have some innate protection from ridicule when you express something ridiculous. Why would you think that should be the case?

And I didn't "choose" atheism. I followed the evidence there. My only choice was admitting I no longer believed. You can't.

[yeahhohkay]

@tillnow67 Why do you act like such a jerk about other beliefs? You can't fully prove creationism or evolutionism. Being an athiest was your choice. Do you ever think that the people around you get hurt when you act like that? People like your friends or family? You've said to me that you "respect other people's beliefs" but that's obviously a total lie.

[yeahhohkay]

What was your point with this video? We get it. You have faith in yourself that you're right about this, but if Christ really is the son of God and you're wrong, then you'd be going to Hell. Faith is much more valuable to Christians than to you, yet you have more faith than anyone I know. It's just that instead of putting it in Christ you're putting it in yourself.

[SRobacker]

Actually, what I said was that you trust him. He lived and that is a fact.

If you don't want to believe, that's fine, but you are forcing yourself to reject the facts.

As for writtings, they are not primitive. Take Daniel, he was the prince of Babylon and well educated.

Paul was a Jewish leader. highly educated. Sure Peter was a fisherman, but Matthew was a tax collector. Another job that required knowledge. Luke a physician.

SOME people back then were smart. They knew 8 languages, etc.

[Brother563]

HMMMMM......