2006 NAS Oceana Airshow - F-104 Starfighter Demonstration

Mike "Bloke" Robinson describes the F-104 Starfighter as it streaks through the skies over NAS Oceana on Saturday September 9, 2006. This would be the first of two flights of the F-104 that day. For more videos and information on DVDs, visit http://www.stevesairshow.com .

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[justforever96]

@xywzaebd- I know this has already been gone over, but seriously...are you on crack or something? The F-4 is a better DOGFIGHTER than the MiG-29? An Su-30 MIGHT be a match for one? That is fucking ridiculous...an Su-30 MIGHT blow 3 Phantoms out of the sky too. The Phantom wasn't designed as a dogfighter, it was a long range naval interceptor. It relied on missiles, radar, and speed to take out the enemy. It INCIDENTLY happened to be an OK attack and fighter plane, but come on! 2 different gens.

[justforever96]

@allanxxx99- The F-104 is considered "dangerous" because it is a very difficult machine to fly. Very high landing/takeoff speeds, high stall speed, at high alt/speed, excessive AOA would cause the plane to enter an unrecoverable spin, they were unstable at high AOA/low airspeed (i.e. landing). Basically, you could never, ever mess up or you'd crash. There were also over 20 pilots killed at low alt. by the downward-ejecting seat, which was replaced soon with regular Martin Baker seats.

[donkeyspamffs]

I could listen to that whistling sound all day lol. Awesome plane. Probably my favorite.

And guys...the F-104 I don't think was designed to be an air superiority dog fighting plane. It could dogfight sure, and did a great job of that but this plane was more an interceptor. Remember this plane was born in the 1950's when catching Soviet atomic bombers was the goal. This plane was basically a rocket. More than twice the speed of sound in the 1950s.

[iowa61]

@riderpoet I don't believe my comments were subliminal. When flown by US Air Force pilots, trained to the specific performance parameters of the aircraft, the MiG would be outclassed, Erich Hartmann's opinion notwithstanding.

[riderpoet]

@iowa61 In what ways, exactly, was the F-104 "vastly superior" to the Mig-21? The only actual engagement between the two (during the Indo-Pakistani war in 1971) was a 2 - 0 victory for the Mig-21s. Admittedly, individual pilot skills during that encounter can't be evaluated, but Erich Hartmann was disgusted enough with the F-104's handling near critical angle of attack to resign over it. I'm not saying the 104 isn't beautiful or fast, but it's combat potential is honestly an unknown.

[Lionforever1860]

F104 still a beautifull plane

THX for Vid

[riderpoet]

I have found that the more an individual actually knows about a subject, the less he tends to shoot his mouth off...

[1bearcatf8f]

@iowa61 High??? Forget it im not gonna bother talking to an ass

[iowa61]

@1bearcatf8f Dude. Are you high? No, really. Are you one toke over the line? The F-8 was designed from the outset as an air superiority fighter. it was the most maneuverable plane in the sky. It had the best combat record of any plane in Vietnam. It had GUNS. It was designed to get in close, mix it up and win. Which it demonstrably did... Though it was capable of carrying bombs and did effectively, that was strictly an afterthought... Look it up.

[1bearcatf8f]

@iowa61 The F-8 is even worse to use,Dont get me wrong as a fighter bomber its size and payload are good but as a fighter not even close.The F-4 has a better up and down manuverbilitly.But i think the F-100,And A-4 would have been good anti MiG killers,sence there both sub sonic and very agile.The F-102 wich saw limited action is another planed that did claim any Mig kills but losing one in the process.

[iowa61]

@1bearcatf8f Hey man. I love chatting with you, but do you read the postings? Not to be disrespectful, but your claim that the "only plane" we had to tackle the the NV MIGs was the F-4 is simply ridiculous. The F-8 Crusader had the best kill ratio of any fighter in the Vietnam war. Hello, McFly, did you hear that? The F-8 would have had an even bigger impact had it been present in larger numbers.

[1bearcatf8f]

@iowa61 I said the only plane we had at the time to tackle the MiGs was the F-4,So it wasnt designed as a close combat dogfighter,it still proved usefull in that type.