"Science vs. Religion: Mayim Bialik and the OTHER Big Bang Theory" Ep. 4, Season 2
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@Gundamator Because what is a morning without a sun? What is a day without a sun? The sun wasn't there for the first three days of creation. For more info on the subject, please see Gerold Schoeder's "The Science of God" or Natan Slifkin's "The Science of Torah"
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@jewinthecity Keep in mind that some Christian beliefs agree with large parts of your presentation. Protestants of the Reformed position certainly acknowledge Satan as a vessel of God's purposes. We do confess Satan's position as fundamentally being an enemy, not merely a tester, though - yet in such a way as being completely subject to God's decrees.
First time viewer and commenter. Great video.
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@alphacause The holy books urge their own reinvention to conform to whatever time period their message is being listened to. 'Holy' doesn't mean 'stay rigid and unchanging'. It means something more like 'make this important message relevant to yourself, where/whenever you live.'
Historically, no [Jewish] sect rejecting this idea has ever survived.
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all I have to say is that faith without science is blind and science without faith is lost
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@Rowan07001484 I know it is hard to grasp the fact that there has to be something created by someone therefore we wonder where did God come from .. but as our brains can't understand fully the infinitude I can tell you God is the infinity. God was there before time and space existed and will last even after time. it is hard to imagine but it does make sense if you think well on this
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"if we were certain there was God watching over us, free will would cease to exist. "
What about the idea that Satan, knowing of god's existence rejects him and is cast out? Presumably Satan is still able to exercise his free will.
nubbinthemonkey 22 hours ago
@nubbinthemonkey the Jewish idea of the Satan is very different from the Christian idea. We do not believe that there is a fight between good and evil. We believe that God runs through everything and unites everything. So in the Jewish view, the Satan "works" for God. His job is to test people, among other things. He is one of the angels and we believe that angels have no free will - they are simply spiritual entities that perform God's will.
jewinthecity 8 hours ago
If you continually have to reinvent your holy books to comport with the advancements in scientific understanding, have the intellectual integrity to say that your holy books are WRONG, at least with respect to matters of science. If you have to take something within your holy books figuratively, just because it contradicts what science proves, then you are not being sophisticated believer. You are just being deceptive to yourself and those around you.
alphacause 4 days ago 6
@alphacause Please don't misunderstand what I'm saying here - no one is continually reinventing. We believe that the Torah is eternal and is God's word. However, there is an opinion, dating at least as far back as the 13th century, that the creation story in the Torah is not meant to be understood literally in all its parts. What that means is that there is *room* for science to come up with new discoveries. These are not my ideas - there are great rabbis who believed (and believe) this.
jewinthecity 4 days ago
@jewinthecity I must take exception to this line of thinking. Trying to fit science into any holy scripture is like fitting me into a two piece bathing suit. Sure it can fit, but it fits so very wrong. This story in the Torah is out of order to how we know the world formed and refers to things such as the fermement, which we know does not exist. I really do not see how we can comfortably fit this story into our understanding of the natural world in any way.
Jesses001 1 day ago
@Jesses001 the question is whether the Torah is meant to be read as a science book or if it's teaching us other truths. the rabbi that I quote (Maimonides - one of the leading rabbis and authorities of Jewish law of all times), who lived in the 1200's, long before the BBT and evolution were discovered, wrote that the creation account is not meant to be understood literally in all of its parts. if we have that permission to read the creation account in a non-literal way, why can't science fit in?
jewinthecity 8 hours ago