Osprey engine start

bell-boeing Osprey starting engines at KFPR. apologies for quality, video was taken with a digital camera and has a tendency to skip

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[AccordGTR]

From Airforcetimes website: crash investigation of Osprey in Qalat Afghan. April 2010 revealed engine failure. Military wanted chief investigator to change his report to "pilot error". "The stresses of flying in the dirt and dust of Afghanistan probably caused the engine problems" BGen. Harvel, chief investigator said. He was not allowed to brief the families of the 4 KIA onboard. Maybe Airforce wants to coverup the reliability problems of this overpriced $67M helo? 

[Kaferwerks]

@AccordGTR nice try. sand/dirt is a common problem in the middle east and can cause major engine or other mechanical failure. just cleaning sand out of vital components is a full time job over there.

pilots (civilian and military) are trained not only in how to fly an aircraft properly but how to safely land one in an emergency. if the engine failed (which an investigation will prove or disprove) then the crash is 100% pilot error as every pilot is trained in proper engine-out procedures.

[AccordGTR]

@Kaferwerks I don't get your point. You didn't dispute what I posted. I was suggesting a high-level coverup that the Osprey was rushed into service when it has serious design flaws that could put its passengers in danger more than other helicopters when flying in sandy conditions. The investigation done was the official DOD investigation. The General didn't want to sign-off on the Colonel's findings when it was the Colonel that did the actual field investigation.

[Kaferwerks]

@AccordGTR pilots are trained how to handle emergency situations safely such as engine failure. if the colonels findings were engine failure to be the cause of the crash then i agree with the general and would do the same. it is pilots responsibility to make the right decisions and there are specific procedures to follow in an engine out emergency. the fact that the aircraft crashed proves pilot error. what part of that dont you get?

[Kaferwerks]

as for a double mechanical failure? get real, the whole purpose of the transmission system is to keep the opposing rotor in motion in the event of an engine failure. to think that an engine failure would cause a transmission failure makes absolutely no sense and is just rediculous.

[AccordGTR]

@Kaferwerks You assume the Osprey can hover with only 1 engine working cuz the tranny will distribute the load evenly? Since when did you become the expert? "Aviation Week" article "The Need for Speed" quoted Col. Clay Hutmacher from the 160th Special Ops Aviation Regiment: at the conditions of the crash at Qulat, Afghanistan, V-22 can hover at only 4000 feet but Qulat is 5085 ft altitude. So if engine failure happened, pilot has no chance to hover.

[Kaferwerks]

@AccordGTR you have this wonderful ability to read and completely misinterpret everything ive said. thats not a compliment. i just had a few a&p's and other pilots read over your comments here, they find you hilarious.

im done with your ignorance, go troll someone elses video.

[Djrepsaj]

Pilot 1: We need to refuel fast otherwise we crash, do you see an airport.

Pilot 2: No but we can land on the parking spot at that shell station, quite cheaper as well.

[Kaferwerks]

@rickcain2320 both engines/rotors are geared to one another. if one engine fails the opposite engine will continue to spin the rotor of the failed engine

[robflamer]

i think all planes should be like th v22 osprey

[buttmanroad]

@Kaferwerks And if both fail theres a stationary bike inside that you can ride in order to keep going.

[jaguar0902]

un-steady cam,did anybody ele feel sick.

[MrFattyfatfatboy]

how to start an osprey, take the ecls and move them past crank to start and then do nothing,

[devastationz12349]

0:33 lol cone fell down 

[AccordGTR]

@Kaferwerks Your logic is flawed since we are talking about the PRIMARY cause. You are saying that the pilot should never crash the aircraft even if it encountered engine failure which doesn't make sense at all, even if all pilots are trained to handle emergencies, because AIRCRAFT CAN'T FLY WITHOUT AN ENGINE. Duh! The pilot has no or little control when there is mechanical or system failure so how can he be at fault? Maybe your Dad is the General or works for Bell-Boeing. hahaha