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Why is Nechung Allowed but Not Dorje Shugden?

Nechung is a worldly spirit of the Gyalpo class, most likey from Persia, who tried to block the coming of Buddhism into Tibet, and finally Guru Rinpoche has to wrathfully oath-bound him.

This video clearly demonstrates the contradictions Tibetan Govt overtly exhibits.

They worship Nechung the spirit yet Dorje Shugden's practice is suppresseed as they claim he is a spirit.

They ask you not to seek advice of spirits as it damages one's refuge vows, yet they are seeking advice.

They ask you not to pray to spirits, yet they set up Nechung's chapel right along the lingkor where hundreds of people religiously circumambulate daily.

There's one policy for them and another for Shugden practitioners.

They put up letters to ban Shugden practitioners yet they promote Nechung the spirit to the lay people.

Why is it they may worship spirits, but we may not worship Dorje Shugden which they have wrongly labeled a spirit?

How can Nechung who has limited clairvoyance advise Dalai Lama to ban Shugden?

How can Nechung with his limited powers as a spirit have the abilities to see the level of Shugden? Why does the Dalai Lama need Nechung's advice at all?

Trijang Rinpoche clearly states Shugden is Manjushri. Yet Nechung says Shugden is not. Who do we listen to? The Root Guru of all Gurus, Trijang Rinpoche or a spirit called Nechung?

The Tibetan Govt in Dharamsala gives many contradictions that do not make sense to those who are learned, can debate and refute. Hence all requests to discuss the Shugden issue with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan Govt have been refused.

Please contemplate on these contradictions.

This film presented is not meant to disparage the Dalai Lama nor Nechung. It is to bring a point across that the policies from Tibetan Govt must be fair and Dalai Lama should never ban, restrict, or speak against Dorje Shugden's practice. Dalai Lama has the right to worship Nechung, so the followers of Trijang Rinpoche have the right to worship Shugden.

Shugden's practice was estimated clearly to be around 4 million strong before 1959. Shugden was not a minor practice but a leading force within the Buddhism of Tibet.

More info on the spirit Nechung / Pehar : http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3934

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  • This video is loaded with incorrect information from dorjeshugden youtube channel.

  • Nechung has never been used to harm others.

    But the Dorje Shugden practice is seen by the vast majority of Tibetan Buddhists and Buddhist masters as very harmful. It´s been used to assasinate Gelugpas (high Lamas and government members). DS embodies the sectarian belief that other Tibetan lineages should be destroyed. (Read the "Yellow Book" by Zemey Tulku.)

    The Dalai Lama has discouraged this "cult practice" for many years, he is promoting non-sectarianism in all schools of Tibetan Buddhism.

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  • Most people who view this will already know and I see others have commented - but just to reiterate - the text added with black background in this video is historically incorrect and is simply an over-intellectualised and therefore unreliable interpretation of this particular Buddhist Lineage. Please do refer to HH Dalai Lama's direct teachings on this and you will certainly then understand.

  • to all..you practise what you what you want to and keep your mouth shut and let the world know you are a fool..... if you want to make anyone else a deity you do that in your own style... why try to terrorise people instigating things incorrect ways..

  • cool hats, guess they want to show off the folkways and the hats. dances are gone. mongolia has them....I do not know if doejeshugden has dances, or Tantra. I think those are Tibetian folkways. any info.?

  • the dances I looked for are in mongolia now, I think those masks may have been in Tibet at one time.

  • this is yellow hat bon shamanism, which is okay by dalai and was his farmer father's trad. but dorjeshugden is not okay by him, where does that compare to bon shamanism and why is it so hated? signed, journalist who would like to know.

  • Just practice compassion, nothing else.

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