Why is God So Hidden?

This is taken from Tim Keller's talk at MIT titled "How Could a Good God Allow Suffering? Belief in an Age of Skepticism."

Full Q&A: http://www.veritas.org/media/talks/610

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[TheGizmoskate]

OR, Mr. Keller... "God" is a man made concept and he is 'hidden' from us because it only exists as an imaginary idea....

[DrHowbeit]

"I don't know". Perhaps the most humane, softening and respectable thing I've heard a Christian say. If he only had stopped there.

[JWeed83]

He loved Job so much he killed his whole family, sure he gave him another one, but maybe Job would have like to have kept his first family, but the members of Jobs first family were just pawns in a bet that God had with the Devil, the Job story would sugest we are all nothing but pawn in a game created by a God who stacks the rules against us, what kind of a father would treat his children as nothing but pawns.

[wonkavsn]

Answer: "I dunno lul!" *Make shit up*

Anyone who's actually read Job ought to recognize that the Christian God is a cowardly asshole. Unfortunately, a large portion of Christianity is dedicated to ignoring obvious character flaws.

[jonesgerard]

@rovingdesertfox Well its still good news, keep it going.

[jonesgerard]

@rovingdesertfox Then you didn't work the program did you?

I know this because when worked as laid out it cannot 'not work' .

And I know from experience of fiddling around with it myself for a while before getting down to brass tacks, half measures yielded zero results.

If you recovered some other way, write it down and give it away, the world could use it.

[rovingdesertfox]

@jonesgerard I worked the program also, but only when I left it did I get rid of my addiction. If I would say God was part of that paradigm, then God healed me, but I don't attribute my turn around to God, just to a maturation process.

[rovingdesertfox]

@jonesgerard Are 'you" your body or the soul/essence/spirit in your body? If your soul/essence/spirit, then you cannot be separated from God. We take a drink of forgetfullness coming into this world, so that we can experience life here without remembering that we are actually a part of God. (I 'awoke' about 20 yrs. ago to all of the unreality here on earth, and could see through that which was not real, but I wouldn't say I had conscious contact with God.)

[rovingdesertfox]

@jonesgerard Are 'you" your body or the soul/essence/spirit in your body? If your soul/essence/spirit, then you cannot be separated from God. We take a drink of forgetfullness coming into this world, so that we can experience life here without remembering that we are actually a part of God. (I 'awoke' about 20 yrs. ago to all of the unreality here on earth, and could see through that which was not real, but I wouldn't say I had conscious contact with God.)

[jonesgerard]

@rovingdesertfox I know it was God because I had to work Gods will ( not mine) to get the result.

I followed the 12 steps of AA and the result was exactly as I was promised.

The obsessions disappeared, the insanity melted away, the fundamental fear vanished.

The problem was removed, its gone.

I don't know about the spirit world, I know theres a conscious entity in my mind that will kill me if given the chance and without God I have no defense. So I'm no saint.