Carl Sagan on "God" and "gods"

@Hansexings

"A universal god makes solid sense"

Well, the point was that the universe makes just as much solid sense without introducing the notion of God at all.

@cheasea

It's a very dear concept which I hold close to my own beliefs as it explains some of the fundemental 'god' questions:

For example, the only way that a god could be truly 'ominous' would be to be the universe and hence you and I.
It also explains gods place as a neutral force. I don't believe in all of that 'god killed this' stuff, as in truth, god is truly like a force of nature that has no qualms about who you are, be you Adolf Hitler, or Carl Sagan.
A universal god makes solid sense

@NoGuyComesClose +1 I was actually thinking about this very concept, earlier in the day.

FUck.

You are the God....The one who gives life and enjoys life.....You are one with the Universe...You are a God to those around you! So, are we All! Gods Bless!

@cheasea....Silly child, there is no god, only science....which came from science!

I think Sagan is wrong at the beginning. He has two postulates, creation by a god and the beginning of the universe. His arguments are compelling and follow reason, but to those who believe in god, it is not enough. The right answer is that both are the same. The big bang and god are really two sides of the same coin. God and the universe are one. God is The most fundamental understanding the universe, the universe itself, we are one with god, one with the universe. I love Sagan!

(Continue..)
Only time and further research can truly answer this cosmoligical question. I think that Sagan understood this aswell. As did Einstein. I too would rather believe in a universal paradox, than one faint moment of life in an endless void of impending death.

@kvash3154

To say that we 'know' today that the universe is unrecyclable is untrue, as we merely speculate its rapid expansion due to the solid evidence of scientists like Edwin Hubble. In truth, because of our lack of understanding of things such as dark matter and energy, we truly can not say that the universe will expand until it is a frozen empty husk, filled with scattered atoms.
This is a cheap exit to an arguement, however a true cliche nonetheless; ..

maybe I misunderstood him, but at the begining about God and the universe, did he mean not to ask the questions? if I remember correctly, what we know about the universe today is that it cant "recycle" it self. but who knows, for every thing we learn it seems we know less and less. we have expanded from newton to quatum, and who knows what might change about our understanding. like finding something out side of time and space, not subject to cause and effect.