26 Censorship

Censorship is alive and well at the Electric Universe, FreeDomain Radio, The Venus Project, The Zeitgeist Movement, and Apeiron Journal, dissident outlets which claim to be censored by the Mathematical Establishment.

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[Breaker242]

Well, let's put all the "population pyramid will result in mass extinction soon" stuff that I debated you some months ago aside. What exactly is it that you don't like about austrian economics?

[bgaede]

"What exactly is it that you don't like about austrian economics?"

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Austrian Econ is the same shit as Smithsonian, Marxist, Keynesian, and Friedman Eon. No diff! Austrian Econ does NOT address the problem (and can't).

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Here's the million $ Q, Break> What comes after Services? Until you or von Mises can answer that Q, you have no solution to imminent extinction. So don't worry about answering Qs that are not asked. That is the only Q you must answer!

[Breaker242]

@bgaede

.. so that producers can then meet that demand for food.

Here's my million $ question for you, Billy> What would stop markets to go back to a more manufacturing or even agrar based economy if public demand for these things would rise again? What is this magic barrier that forces us to stay with services no matter what?

[bgaede]

1. "these different categories that you put goods into are abitrary and meaningless"

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Not goods, but jobs or activities! There have been only four economic activities in which we have ever engaged (5 if we separate hunting from gathering).

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"Services, manufacturing and agrarculture have always existed in some way or another"

We've never TRADED back scratching for food. There was no TRADE until we invented division of labor (i.e., post subsistence agri).

[bgaede]

2. "If demand for food would increase, then we'd just go back to a more agrarculture based economy"

Why? All we need to do is crank up the tractors and combines. We can produce more food with the technology we have if the Martians would just put in an order!

[bgaede]

3. "What would stop markets to go back to a more manufacturing or even agrar based economy if public demand for these things would rise again?"

TECHNOLOGY! Technology FORBIDS going back thru time!

Nevertheless, why would demand increase? Human population is in decline. We are projected to reach ZPG by mid-century.

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census gov/population/international/d­ata/idb/worldgrgraph.php

[bgaede]

4. "What is this magic barrier that forces us to stay with services no matter what?"

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That YOU cannot even imagine the next activity in which the next generation will work!

[finlarg]

@bgaede "...thru time..." What's this Bill - I though you said going through time was an impossibility?

"Human population is in decline." What planet are you on Bill? The human population is still rising. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried!

[Breaker242]

@bgaede

but as I already said, this "taxonomy" of "kinds of economies" is hardly more than semantics. All services/goods/whatever that you produce only serve to serve demand and make a profit so that you can buy stuff and produce more to buy more stuff. There is nothing "magical" about services that differentiates them from agrarculture. It's both just something that is done to meet demand. If demand for food would increase, then we'd just go back to a more agrarculture based economy..

[Breaker242]

@bgaede

As I already told you, these different categories that you put goods into are abitrary and meaningless. There has never been such a thing such as "after agrarculture" or "after manufacturing" and there will never be such a thing as "after services". Services, manufacturing and agrarculture have always existed in some way or another. It's just that the distribution of how many of the total economy belongs to one sector or another has changed.

[sergio267]

Plasms physics isn't different at all from mainstream physics.

both could be thrown in the garbage.