Obama and The War Criminals

Five Things You Should Know About the Torture Memos

No. 1. I have read the 175 pages of legal memoranda (the memos) that the Department of Justice (DoJ) released last week. They consist of letters written by Bush DoJ officials to the Deputy General Counsel of the CIA concerning the techniques that may be used by American intelligence agents when interrogating high value detainees at facilities outside the U.S. The memos describe in vivid, gut-wrenching detail the procedures that the CIA apparently inquired about. The memos then proceed to authorize every procedure asked about, and to commend the CIA for taking the time to ask.

No. 2. In the process of explaining to the CIA Deputy General Counsel just what his folks could do in order to extract information from uncooperative detainees, it is immediately apparent that the writers of the memos are attempting to find snippets of language from other memoranda that they or their colleagues have prepared and from unrelated judicial opinions that justify everything that the CIA wants to do. "This is not rocket science and it is not art. Everyone knows torture when they see it."

The bias in favor of permitting torture may easily be concluded from a footnote in one of the memos. In that footnote, the author, now-federal judge Jay Bybee, declines to characterize such notorious medieval torture techniques as the thumbscrew and the rack as torture. With that incredible mindset, he proceeds to do his Orwellian best to define away such terms as pain, suffering, and inhumane in such a way as to require that the interrogators produce near death experiences in order to have their behavior come under the proscriptions of the federal statute prohibiting torture, and the Convention (treaty) Against Torture, which was negotiated by and signed in behalf of the U.S. by President George H.W. Bush.

No. 3. The logic in the memos is simple: The government may utilize the ten procedures inquired about (all of which were publicly known except confinement on a coffin, bound and gagged, and in the presence of insects), so long as no one dies or comes close to death. This conclusion is startling in the case of walling (banging a detainees head against a solid but moveable wall) and waterboarding (near drowning) since the federal governments own physicians, cited in the memos themselves, have concluded that both techniques are always a near occasion of death. The conclusion is also startling since it fails to account for numerous federal and state prosecutions, and prosecutions in Thailand — where these torture sessions apparently occurred — that have defined torture according to its generally accepted meaning:

Any intentionally inflicted cruel or inhumane or degrading treatment, unauthorized by a court of law, perpetrated for the punishment of the victim, to extract statements from the victim, or to gratify the perpetrator.

This universally-accepted definition makes no reference and has no condition that anything goes short of a near occasion of death.

No. 4. The memos also fail to account for the Geneva Conventions, which the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled govern American treatment of all foreign detainees, lawful or unlawful. The third of those conventions PROHIBITS TOUCHING the detainee in any way, other than for the purpose of moving him from place to place, if he refuses to go voluntarily and when told to do so.

No. 5. The memos place Attorney General Holder, who argued for their release, in an untenable situation. He has stated under oath, at his confirmation hearings, that waterboarding is torture and torture is prohibited by numerous federal laws. He has also taken an oath to uphold all federal laws, not just those that are politically expedient from time to time. He is correct and he must do his moral and legal duty to reject any Nuremberg defense. This is not rocket science and it is not art. Everyone knows torture when they see it; and no amount of twisted logic can detract from its illegal horror, its moral antipathy, and its attack at core American values.
By Judge Andrew Napolitano

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[LiteWaiter]

"...it's proper, humane, and appropriate" that's what Rumsfeld said, so that's the least we can do for the real war criminals.

02:05

Rise "If it was authorised by the president..."

08:02

Nixon "If it is authorised by the president it is not illegal..."

Therefore they need a puppet president.

But, "No one is above the law".

BRING IT ON.

[jsyc07]

Good stuff.

[TITOtheLEGEND1]

NOT ONE AMERICAN CITIZEN CAN BE PROSECUTED FOR WAR CRIMES,BY INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMES COURT. WHY ???

[OttoLund]

Maniacs !

abeldanger(dot)net

[johnnycmajor]

Impeach O B O M B M A yes he broke the law and yes he is a liar, kick his arse out of the White House do not let the door hit your ass on the way Sir. I hope it is not too late if it is God Bless you all.

Go Ron Go

[ryeguy123456789]

Listening to lawyers answering questions makes me sick!

[wmarcus1203]

@aviomaster Learn proper english before attempting to tell Americans to Fuck off. Now, With that being said...FUCK OFF!

[ryeguy123456789]

A friggen bunch of criminals!!!

[celticcelticwger066]

@durango64 Come away from her, my people. Do not take part in her sins, or you will be punished with her. 5For her sins are piled as high as heaven, and God remembers her evil deeds. 6Do to her as she has done to others. Double her penaltyd for all her evil deeds. She brewed a cup of terror for others, so brew twice as muche for her. 7She glorified herself and lived in luxury, so match it now with torment and sorrow.

[aviomaster]

NO one is above the LAW -- was good idea but  criminals in USA goverment do not like it.

So fuck off AMERICANS and eath their Shit.