From Facing Race 2010's keynote presentation by Melissa Harris-Lacewell, Associate Professor of Politics and African American Studies at Princeton University. http://melissaharrisperry.com/
When she talks about the "hollow prize" of blacks being elected only after ecomomies tank she ignores that most blacks will only vote for blacks, so the economies are tanking due to the increasing black populations. Without enough white workers to be a tax base cities fall apart.
@shieldsff WTF? First of all, you provided very little actual information. Just a weak "listen to a 2+ hour video" tactic.
Second, and most critically, you entirely twisted my entire statement and premise.
You aren't even worth arguing with.
For the sake of others who read this, though, I never argued that black culture is at the root of America's various pathology. Nothing similar. I commented that said culture is responsible for the failure of the larger part of the black community.
re RonD-on the contrary, I've provided more then sufficient -indeed, an abundance- of references which thoroughly bury your central "NON-thesis" that "black culture" is the cause of mainstream America's social injustices/pathologies (slipshod, convoluted, dogma which is a throwback to 9th century social darwinist pabulum).U have already admitted U are incapable or unwilling to analyze w//rigor or objectivity.How about this:GRITtv:Melissa Harris-Lacewell: Racialized Choices on Stimulus
@RonQE - on the contrary, I've provided more then sufficient -indeed, an abundance- of references which thoroughly bury your central "NON-thesis" that "black culture" is the cause of mainstream America's social injustices/pathologies (slipshod, convoluted, dogma which is a throwback to 19th century social darwinist pabulum).U have already admitted U are incapable or unwilling to analyze w//rigor or objectivity. How about this:GRITtv: Melissa Harris-Lacewell: Racialized Choices on Stimulus
@shieldsff Fallacious argument, there. I've actually given many of these issues more time than they are due. You'd have more a point if you suggested a 5-minute video and I refused to listen to it, which might suggest I just ignored the sources or otherwise was ill-informed.
You can't make an actual POINT, I see, to counter anything I wrote, so you have fallen back on these weak tactics. Whatever. You stand exposed.
"I wasn't impressed enough to sit through that one;.I just don't have the time"
Well mystery now solved as expected. No time 4 U 2 listen (presumably the same with the dozens of other clips many far less short).So I think it now proper to infer that you arrogantly want everyone to completely & unreasonably accept your simple dogma & non-historical observations as having any consequential validity.At the same time you absurdly dismiss informed scholars like MHL, Foner, Loury-NO THANKS
@shieldsff I've listened to some of Tim Wise's speeches before, and I wasn't impressed enough to sit through that one you mentioned, which was 2+ hours in length. I just don't have the time, until such evidence is presented that he has more than the occasional point.
He seems to be out to rattle the chains and make a controversial name for himself with half-truths, aimed at convincing those who don't demand REAL evidence for spurious claims. But he didn't impress me.
@jkedmond As for the complaints about "housing discrimination", oh, yes, I'm sure they COMPLAIN more. When you show me any REAL evidence of real discrimination, based on race, then you'll actually have a point, there.
It's quite established blacks, and to a lesser degree, Latinos, have learned to complain about "unfair treatment", because society coddles them.
@jkedmond Good gosh, so much to respond to, but I'll just hit the central issues.
Such as - how is it black people's fault they wind up in prison? Really? Whose fault IS it, then, that they commit more crime? White people's?
As for blacks not getting as far ahead - hell, when most can't be bothered to LEARN or SELF-IMPROVE enough to even speak moderately well, is it any surprise they don't get in as many classes, make as much money, or get out of the ghettos?
@jkedmond - thank you sir.... In addition, I strongly recommend the current profile of Black History month vids on my channel... Thanks for taking the time to read, study and be educated on these matter. God bless you (and the lovely M. Harris-Perry) too,
When she talks about the "hollow prize" of blacks being elected only after ecomomies tank she ignores that most blacks will only vote for blacks, so the economies are tanking due to the increasing black populations. Without enough white workers to be a tax base cities fall apart.
1stworlder 1 week ago
@shieldsff WTF? First of all, you provided very little actual information. Just a weak "listen to a 2+ hour video" tactic.
Second, and most critically, you entirely twisted my entire statement and premise.
You aren't even worth arguing with.
For the sake of others who read this, though, I never argued that black culture is at the root of America's various pathology. Nothing similar. I commented that said culture is responsible for the failure of the larger part of the black community.
RonQE 2 weeks ago
re RonD-on the contrary, I've provided more then sufficient -indeed, an abundance- of references which thoroughly bury your central "NON-thesis" that "black culture" is the cause of mainstream America's social injustices/pathologies (slipshod, convoluted, dogma which is a throwback to 9th century social darwinist pabulum).U have already admitted U are incapable or unwilling to analyze w//rigor or objectivity.How about this:GRITtv:Melissa Harris-Lacewell: Racialized Choices on Stimulus
shieldsff 2 weeks ago
@RonQE - on the contrary, I've provided more then sufficient -indeed, an abundance- of references which thoroughly bury your central "NON-thesis" that "black culture" is the cause of mainstream America's social injustices/pathologies (slipshod, convoluted, dogma which is a throwback to 19th century social darwinist pabulum).U have already admitted U are incapable or unwilling to analyze w//rigor or objectivity. How about this:GRITtv: Melissa Harris-Lacewell: Racialized Choices on Stimulus
shieldsff 2 weeks ago
@shieldsff Fallacious argument, there. I've actually given many of these issues more time than they are due. You'd have more a point if you suggested a 5-minute video and I refused to listen to it, which might suggest I just ignored the sources or otherwise was ill-informed.
You can't make an actual POINT, I see, to counter anything I wrote, so you have fallen back on these weak tactics. Whatever. You stand exposed.
RonQE 2 weeks ago
"I wasn't impressed enough to sit through that one;.I just don't have the time"
Well mystery now solved as expected. No time 4 U 2 listen (presumably the same with the dozens of other clips many far less short).So I think it now proper to infer that you arrogantly want everyone to completely & unreasonably accept your simple dogma & non-historical observations as having any consequential validity.At the same time you absurdly dismiss informed scholars like MHL, Foner, Loury-NO THANKS
shieldsff 3 weeks ago
@shieldsff I've listened to some of Tim Wise's speeches before, and I wasn't impressed enough to sit through that one you mentioned, which was 2+ hours in length. I just don't have the time, until such evidence is presented that he has more than the occasional point.
He seems to be out to rattle the chains and make a controversial name for himself with half-truths, aimed at convincing those who don't demand REAL evidence for spurious claims. But he didn't impress me.
RonQE 3 weeks ago
@jkedmond As for the complaints about "housing discrimination", oh, yes, I'm sure they COMPLAIN more. When you show me any REAL evidence of real discrimination, based on race, then you'll actually have a point, there.
It's quite established blacks, and to a lesser degree, Latinos, have learned to complain about "unfair treatment", because society coddles them.
RonQE 3 weeks ago
@jkedmond Good gosh, so much to respond to, but I'll just hit the central issues.
Such as - how is it black people's fault they wind up in prison? Really? Whose fault IS it, then, that they commit more crime? White people's?
As for blacks not getting as far ahead - hell, when most can't be bothered to LEARN or SELF-IMPROVE enough to even speak moderately well, is it any surprise they don't get in as many classes, make as much money, or get out of the ghettos?
RonQE 3 weeks ago
@jkedmond - thank you sir.... In addition, I strongly recommend the current profile of Black History month vids on my channel... Thanks for taking the time to read, study and be educated on these matter. God bless you (and the lovely M. Harris-Perry) too,
shieldsff 3 weeks ago