TAG: Not It!

http://www.godvsthebible.com

Taking on the TAG argument.

Linked videos:
Jesus Loves Slavery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32jS-wyo_j4

Punishing Children for the Sins of the Parents: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmnGFsI2g4U

Rape in the Bible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_tJdL6ulX8

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• bible
• study
• transcendental
• argument
• for
• god

[Redfingers]

WTF, John, aren't you a deist?

Y'know what, I'm not even going to ask. You're a fucking badass.

I'd trust you with my life, this kind of honesty is worthy of a badge of honor.

[DeistPaladin]

Thank you. I'm surrounded by atheists among my friends and family. They are good moral people that I would trust with MY life. To use the moral argument, to even imply that those who don't share my belief in God can't be moral, is as offensive to me as it is absurd. There are some arguments for God that I will call out as nonsense.

[theycallmebobFOO]

@FairNskware

Sorry but as far as I'm concerned this debate is over until you can come up with an argument that isn't based on mere assertion.

[FairNskware]

@theycallmebobFOO

Seriously, ...the blind are leading the blind in this quest to defraud the one and only Creator..whose design is so flawless and perfect that the entire universe runs itself. How does that happen? Not by chance friend. WOW

[theycallmebobFOO]

@ FairNskware

Now you're just moving the goalpost.

As I'm sure you know, this is a faulty premise. There's nothing about the universe that points to a God as you would likely define him. Even if you defined him ONLY as the creator it still wouldn't do much because arguing for a deistic God is pretty pointless.

[FairNskware]

@theycallmebobFOO

All the many extraordinary designs in the universe proves the existence of a designer just by the fact that they exist. God is the originator of design, so yes we only modify was already exists. The obvious is all around us, it's quite inexcusable not to see God through his wonderous creation.

[theycallmebobFOO]

@ FairNskware

Design as we know it is something that is only recognizable in comparison to observable phenomenon that could not have been designed. The only thing humans have experienced with design are things not designed by God, you can't apply it to the universe. Keep in mind humans have never created anything, only modified what already exists to create something that appears new. I think this shows why this argument is fallacious, it's a false analogy.

[Tiwaking]

When the justification for action is god, then anything can be justified

[FairNskware]

Explain then?

[johngeetar]

flawed premise.

[ejstaats]

subscribed (thank NonStampCollector for plugging you)

I have used something analogous to the veil of ignorance for some time, thanks for giving me more of a philosophical base for it.

[FairNskware]

Understanding mechanics you say?

Well, I think you will agree then that a watch requires a watchmaker,a house requires a builder so then logically a human requires a Creator. That is simple mechanics...and to take it one step further, the makers of all these things have the right to set standards of their creation. Humans were given freewill to use only in a way that would please the maker who has the right to set those standard, so anything contrary to the standards of the maker is imperfect.