So... what do you think?

I apologize if this seems a bit redundant with me, but considering all that's been going on, I feel that now is definitely the time for us to start asking these questions amongst ourselves. Where do you think we're headed, and where should we be headed if we actually want a fair, working society for all?

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[fckuvrymch]

i think it is beautiful the way that we are all unique individuals, yet somehow we have this common thread that its time for change.

we each have gifts, and we use those gifts to benefit others, rather than ourselves.

this common thread is weaving a new world slowly but surely.

[Swordsage]

@fckuvrymch I like how you put that. As far as I can tell, so many people are feeling that something has to change, no matter what their ideological persuasion is. It's like what Malcom X said when he talked about the different ideas he and other civil rights leaders had... "What you and I are for is freedom... We both got the same objective, we just got different ways of getting' at it."

I can't help but think of that statement when I think of what's going on today.

[Shezmu]

Maybe I'm insane, but maybe the problem is that everyone is framing the question here as if there can only be one solution to the problems society is facing and all the possible solution's proponents must battle to the death to only one remains, as if we're in Highlander or something. Maybe the solution is that everyone can try their own solutions and see what works? Just a crazy thought.

[Swordsage]

@Shezmu To be honest, I also am prone to thinking that a "little bit of everything" might be worth look at here.

[FreeTheWorker]

-problem-

We live in a system in which rich men are destined to always rule over the poor, as a structural flaw of the private business model. This has allowed successful business owners, often owing their success largely to their inheritance, to accumulate disproportionate wealth and influence. Now possessing wealth that rivals nations, they are able to purchase political leaders through bribes, or 'campaign contributions' and gifts, to lobby favors against the public interest for their profit

[WarblesOnALot]

@Swordsage G'day... Well, the key is if the people in whatever society are Selfish, or Selfless. If the Individuals are Selfless then almost ANY Social Structure will work. If the Individuals are Selfish, then Any & All Systems fall to bits, in a Shitstorm of Corruption. The Grandparents borrowed YOUR Global Environmental-Surplus, and pissed it up against the wall. So, you're born into slavery, and tough shit..! Granny & Granpa had FUN.

[kitrana]

@kitrana anyway to address your point. yeah i think there is a general move towards personal freedoms in the world. But i think it's fueled by the fact that "marked" rulers are for times when survival is on the line. and the world been generally though not entirely smoothly away from a survival mode sort of deal. wen your not under threat every day you start having more time to think and wanting to have a say in what happens in your life.

[kitrana]

what i think happens is well it's not simple. sometimes people who want power grab it by holding a revolution. they lead the revolution and wind up on the top when it wins. and then they show their true corruption. but thats not always what happens in revolutions. of course even if you do get a free society the institutions needed to govern draw people who want to abuse power. and the apathy sets in over time. as people get used to voting or whatever the system is.

[FreeTheWorker]

I submitted the wrong response, I meant to submit Free The Worker

Anyway, SwordSage the society I would like to see is a more free society with a healthy worker driven economy and workplace democracy. Worker Cooperatives could save our economy, if more people in America knew what they were and how they work. Better, Cooperatives could improve conditions for the workers themselves, in more ways than one.

One of the best presentations on Cooperatives can be found here.

watch?v=neNwAZSBMb0

[bluffed12]

In a Intelligent, non-egocentric, peaceful society, the best government is no government at all.

In this age of war, starvation and egotism the only governments that seem to be working are dictatorships, socialism and facism.

Pretty fuckin sad.

[gothatfunk]

finally got to watch this. video response will come, i just need to find the time.

[Shezmu]

@Swordsage Yeah, it's not like the people who want fascism can't just slap a "please recto-scan me" sign on their backs. :p

[dawn0293]

I don't know enough of politics to have anything I can throw out there as what I would consider to be the best option, as I am just too ignorant of all the choices to be comfortable doing so BUT I do feel that I can say with certainty that political parties have got to go. It fosters too much of an us vs them mentality and sets the stage to have candidates liked or disliked by sheer association rather than their own merits or lack thereof.