Berlin Calling - Axis Sally
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@101jir So yes considering that 20 years earlier large parts of Poland was part of Germany France had far less reason to invade Germany than Germany had to invade Poland.and the USA had even less reason to invade Iraq. Yes the Nazis were evil buggers but it isn't just naked aggression.
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@101jir do us all a big favor and never get a job proof reading important documents. I never said the allies were worse. The problem with your thinking is that your forgetting all about ww1. Poland was a product of the first war of which both the allies and Germany were equally at fault. Danzig was a German city and along with west Prussia was stripped from Germany. It is never black and white like you wish to portray it. WW2 was a direct result of WW1.
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@12from121 Not as bad? You just said that the main reason that Germany invaded Poland was so that they could fight Russia. The allies might not be perfect, but can you honestly say that France had less reason to invade Germany than Germany had to invade Poland? Let me put it this way: if you saw someone get shot on the street and you had a gun, would you honestly just stand there? Saying the allies were worse (with the exception of Russia) is taking it a bit far.
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@101jir Please don't be so naive, the allies were far from the good guys, they were just not as bad as the nazis. All politicans are deceptive, Stalin was trying to deceive Hitler, both just as bad as each other.
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@12from121 See, but look from the allies PoV. The agreement was violated. Sure, they may have both been using each other, but that is the very point I was making. Hitler used people, often through deception. He was a deceptive person, regardless of whether it was seen through or not. The fact that Russia figured it out, or even that Hitler knew Russia knew is irrelevent. Shady dealing make people uncomfortable, especially when the dealer has just invaded someone.
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@101jir Yes he stops at Russia Germany had 80million people so further conquest is pointless. There was no deception with Russia both sides knew they were headed for war but both gained out of their agreement. Russia gained the time she needed whilst Germany got to punch out France. Both Stalin and Hitler knew the war would be decided in the East. If Hitler didn't attack the Russians would of no later than summer 42 .
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@12from121 Sorry, I did misread your comment. However, the pattern still holds: once he is done with Russia, do you think he is going to stop? The only reason he would stop would be to rebuild his troops. And he didn't exactly make his enmity with Russia clear when he agreed how they would split Poland, deception or not. The allies read one thing correctly about Hitler at least: when Hitler says "no," he means "yes." Who is being decieved?
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@101jir you seriously need to reread my comments because your comment makes zero sense. Never for the life of me did I say he was only interested in Poland. The truth was he was only interested in Russia. He thought the west would know this and be ok with Germany and Russia going at it, he was wrong. It is wasn't for the Russians however the Nazis win. BTW you can't attack Russia without a mutual border which is why he attacked Poland.
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@12from121 So everyone else was to just "stay out of it" while Germany attacked whoever they want? France and Germany had been long time enemies, which I am sure is no news to you. Suppose Hitler eventually had the "urge" to attack Russia, or the Balkans, or France. I am afraid that "he was only interested in [had the urge to invade] Poland" cuts it.
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@Elberiver11 no the "bad germans" were busy slaughtering Russian women and children. WW2 was a clear case of the other powers responding to German aggression go do your reasearch.
@Elberiver11 Thats true. Most Americans swallow whatever their televisions tell them.
vengencemonger 4 months ago 4
Germany was fighting wars with her neighbour Poland. It was Americans and British who turned it into a world war.
British Empire started war on Germany on Sep 3rd 1939, and the USA started war on Germany without declaration on March 11th 1941 by LEND-LEASE ACT which ended American neutrality.
American battle ship "USS-Greer" started attacking German ships on Sep. 4th 1941. Germany declared war back on the USA three months later. Learn your own murderous country's history, moron. lol
Elberiver11 5 months ago