Bizarre Drugs - kratom

A scientifical look at an herb from tailand called kratom purposed to have an opioid effect.

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[Keepongoin2]

you are obviously suffering from heroin withdrawls, check yourself into a detox center now. IF I SEE YOU ON THE STREET IM GOING TO PUNCH YOU IN THE FUCKING FACE...

[MisterNickOtine]

@Oronar97 lol. dilaudid is derived from morphine and oxycodone can be derived from both morphine and codeine as well as thebaine. thebaine is also uncommonly known as PARAMORPHINE you cheeky pedantic little troll.

[MisterNickOtine]

@runetang another interesting thing to know is thebaine and codeine can also be derived from morphine. in the plants formation of morphine it naturally occurs in reverse.

[MisterNickOtine]

@runetang correct it is not like morphine at all, but the reason why the chemists use the name paramorphine is because of its structure which is the more important thing to consider when chemically "tweaking" drugs. calling it a "morphine opiate" technically makes sense and is nothing to make a big deal over. the guy i was responding to was just insulting vinny for no reason. like i said it is trivial.

[runetang]

****tea beverage extracted from the Papaver Somniferum plant

There is no Thebaine, Morphine, or Codiene that naturally occurs in the Kratom plant. All three occur naturally in Papaver Somniferum

[MisterNickOtine]

@runetang i didn't say that oxycodone was usually derived from morphine, just that it can be. it is more commonly obtained from, as you say thebaine, but ask a chemist if you don't believe me. i don't care. and i wasn't saying anything about drug testing. i honestly don't understand why you are calling bullshit on me???

[runetang]

@MisterNickOtine Paramorphine? That's a terrible name. It means "Like Morphine", which is most definitely isnt. By itself, in high enough quantites (not an unreasonable amount you would think), is a known deliriant and can cause seizures.

This was a concern at one point in recent history regarding the creation of a tea beverage extracted from the plant; concern being that too high of Thebaine content could cause the drinker a seizure. There's too little present to cause this

[runetang]

@runetang To expound for dummiez: Your liver breaks down "dilliez" (Hydromorphone) partially into the same shit that your liver breaks Morphine down into, so it will show up as Morphine usually on a instant dipstick piss-test.

Oxycodone (or Oxymorphone), your O-Ceez and your O-panz, dont get broken down into the same shit that Morphine breaks down to that makes you test positive for Morphine or 'Opiates'. I can only guarantee that for cheap three-panel instant tests.

[runetang]

@MisterNickOtine I call bullshit on your information sir. Hydromorphone is a semi-synthetic derivative of Morphine *and* Thebaine, while Oxycodone(or Oxymorphone) is predominantly a semi-synthetic derivative of Thebaine, one of three 'main' psychoactive alkaloids in the papaver somniferum plant, that by itself, is not recreational. This is why Hydromorphone shows up as Morphine or 'Opiates' on a cheap three-panel urine test, while Oxycodone will not show up as 'Morphine' at all.

[runetang]

@Keepongoin2 You're fucking retarded and the 15 people who thumed up your comment are fucking retarded. If you knew shit about heroin withdrawals, you'd know the mothafucker wouldn't be posting up a video, and he surely wouldn't be in a good mood, if you call it that. You obviously dunno your shit.

[suomik1988]

At first I thought this guy was doing like a school project, then I was like, holy shit this guy is a movie star! He would make a good episode of intervention.

[onthebits]

DIRTY SMACK HEAD