Re: I challenge Labarum312 to refute Graffffik on Biblical alteration and Biblical Plagiarism~!

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[TheMuscIeMan85]

What's that book you show that has the Greek texts of the New Testament? And is that kind of Greek difficult to learn?

[labarum312]

@TheMuscIeMan85 The book is the Nestle/Aland 27th Edition of the Greek New Testament. It can be difficult to learn but it helps that you do not need to understand the whole language but can restrict yourself to the vocabulary of the New Testament. I think there are some videos on Youtube about learning Koine Greek that might help.

[epaminodas]

the egyptian parallels are questionable in my book but the closest parallel seems to be Zamolxis. Curious to know if you're familiar with it and what your take is.

[labarum312]

@epaminodas The story of Zalmioxis has only one source and there is no other evidence the cult existed. As described by Herodotus, Zalmoxis has a chamber built in the ground where he lives for three years, his followers give him up for dead and mourn, and he shows up years later. Not really much else there to be honest.

[ukchristian28]

I will make a prediction. Dhorpatan will say that this video is a strawman because you are implying that the paralells have to match up exactly to be valid. The details are still similar enough to be considered paralells that prove Christian copying.

[labarum312]

@ukchristian28  Perhaps but at least in his PM to me he seemed genuinely curious what I thought about this. He was very careful not to assert they were actually true. I will choose not to prejudge any motives at this point.

[TheMuscIeMan85]

@labarum312  Cool, thanks.

[XSC3]

"The Magic Phallus" ? sounds like some bawdy play from shakespear's time

[BoethianAcolyte]

C.S. Lewis pretty effectively demonstrated that parallels do not disprove anything anyway. He points out that the weirdness of a religion that was completely true among countless false ones would make it pretty hard to believe in your own beliefs. Parallels are not any more self-explanatory than any other kind of evidence.

[lipoicacid]

@epaminodas Read the Pyramd texts from beginning to end.And remember Horus is his father...and Horus ''is the Savior''.His words...not mine.

[lipoicacid]

@labarum312 He is cautious because he has not done his research in that area.But his reason tells him it is borrowed.

[lipoicacid]

@ukchristian28 If you require word for word copying in order to actually see where borrowing takes place have a look at where the OT scribes borrowed from the Ugaritic texts.In some cases the scribes copied in error making the OT passage non-sensical until scholars found the correct word construction in the Ugaritic texts.As you study Egyptian theology keep in mind that all the gods are one.Horus [is] his father and Set is only Horus as the set-ting sun [Sut=dirty sun] or On.Set-on or Satan.

[graffffik]

Ok I got the 'jest' of your video. You are suggesting 'the bible is a jumbled up mess of translations'

Well I agree PROVISIONALLY.

It is a 'Jumbled up mess of "CONSTANT ALTERING" there's a difference, the argument is not 'words' are 'similar' the arguments are 'the plots' are similar

Horus had a magical birth under a star. jesus had a magical birth under a star.

jesus raised Lazarus from the Dead. Horus Raised Osiris from the dead.

Jesus avoided temptation in the desert SO DID HORUS

[Dhorpatan]

@labarum312

Graffffik on my video says Noah's Ark is altered from The Epic of Gilgamesh, Tablet 11. He says Adam and Eve is altered from the Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet 1.

Is that true Albert?