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[jerrylee76]

seems like a decent speaker, maybe be more prepared next time to seem less nervous. interesting points though

[Kingery4President]

Hearing the government housing put that way, it is simply guilty by association. Guilty without a trial. Our political system is so far off its foundation, gov should be required to present a warrant even if they have consent. This way the individual knows what the police are looking for. No warrant, no search.

What I want to see is USA citizens as independent as possible, while also able to function in groups to help others when needed.

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[NETWizzJbirk]

This is BS, but I do not care much about the people in Government housing though I do not think they should be able to be searched at the whim of Government.

[1njtrooper]

@worldtravel101 Unless you work public housing like I do then its really no need for me to explain anything. My fingers would cramp up tellin you all the foolishness I see. Your question seems cut and dry enough but its not that simple.

[worldtravel101]

@1njtrooper what did the person do wrong? when it was thier guest who is the drug posseser. i certainly dont use or condone illegal drugs, but this situation here is a bit fuct up.

[1njtrooper]

The moral of story is ?................ Don't sell or use drugs . Why are people always making excuses for bad behaviour.

[severedfeet]

dc cop you imply that a judge could give out a warrant for a unreasonable search and seizure?i find the idea that my power to my own belongings is the ionly reason anyt government exists

TO PROTECT NOT RULE

[SoupyLibertarian]

Solution... get rid of welgare programs... not joking:)

Welfare is for Commies

[dccop58]

I had worried about my comments falling on deaf ears and it turns out my concern was justified. You say the 4th ammendment REQUIRES warrants for all searches and then fail to show evidence of that. All you have shown is that for searches that DO require warrants, police need probable cause. You have not addressed the topic at all, that of searches that do NOT require warrants. If you feel better thinking you have "defeated" me, so be it. I'm not one to stand in the way of someone feeling good.

[xaajjaax]

You've defeated yourself, dccop. Sadly, acts of congress and Supreme Court rulings condone your actions at the expense of citizens' rights to privacy and private property.

You are a law enforcement officer; you enforce just and unjust laws alike. In fact, cops prefer to enforce easier laws, such as drug laws. It's easier to bust a kid with a baggie or ticket a speeder than it is to bring a murderer to justice. When called on this, you say "the law is the law" because that's all you care about.

[xaajjaax]

Hm? Look at your own quotation. "... and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause" Probable cause is a requirement for the issue of the warrant, not a warrantless search. It goes on to require a specific place to be named (not a full search of a person or vehicle) and what is to be seized. Never is consent mentioned. Supreme Court rulings by conservative justices with an authoritarian lean and unconstitutional laws passed by congress made things he way they are today.

[dccop58]

(Oops, probable cause, not probably cause.)