Blood transfusion challenge: update with further observation and question

Partial list of WT flipflops on vaccines, organ transplants, and blood transfusions(my favorite example is a tract where they actually forgot they changed one of their own rules and published an older one):
http://ajwrb.org/watchtower/data1.shtml

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[inspirediam]

Excellent points!

[utukkuxul]

I mean, if some "evil apostate" was willing to take back his statements and support your cause, as long as you provide evidence that you already claim that you have, you'd think it's be simplicity and a no brainer to go ahead and prove said evidence.

Yet you notice as quick as they are to flood videos with their nonsense when it's about something debatable like Biblical interpretation, now that it's about numbers and facts, there's not a sound to be heard from them...

[inspirediam]

Precisely...you see, that is where the credibility of the organization's issues come to "light." That is the "new light" that members need to take note of...if they cannot refute these claims...then a huge question should be planted within them in regard to whether they have "the truth" or not...it is fear that keeps them from questioning...yet, some to eventually question and leave.

[utukkuxul]

Charles Russell said "new light" would never contradict a known truth, all it did was simply illuminate more about that truth, like more details of why it was true, how it worked, or whatever.

Yet the modern WT society uses NL to contradict old teachings, something their founder said could not happen. They also say NL will never revert back to older teachings, yet they've reverted back to their 1914 teachings from the 30s. Why would God lead them away and then back to that teaching?

[inspirediam]

Furthermore, "new light" is New Age verbiage...why is the Watchtower using it? I know why...because the grass roots of this organization are connected with the occult. Witnesses cannot prove me wrong, because they would not dare investigate the grass roots of the very organization that they claim is the truth. I am not saying the occult is wrong or right. I am saying that the watchtower is against the occult, yet my research via my theology class revealed the occult beginnings.

[utukkuxul]

How far back have New Age groups used the phrase New Light? I know the WT's use of it dates back to Russell.

[TheJwhistory]

WELL DONE. As you know, FEAR sells books and magazines, fear holds the victims captive. The magazine empire was built on the fears and donations of naive and gullible people. When the WATCH TOWER burns out one fear factor they just invent another, the tactic has worked since 1876. They eat blood every time they eat meat, every hamburger, hot dog, sausage, chicken sandwich and so on, the blood is in the meat.

[inspirediam]

You know, I don't know. I just recognized that phrase when I was doing independent research for my term paper in theology.

[utukkuxul]

Thanks. The downer here is that no JW will respond to this video. I've had a half dozen JWs preach about blood transfusions, and then when I ask them to please give their honest response to this video on the subject, they either ignore me or they promise to respond and then don't. I had one really adamant JW arguing up and down on the subject, saying he would disprove this video. I sent him a message every month or so reminding him to respond and he never did. It goes to show...

[inspirediam]

I just realized, that you might percieve that is a sarcastic comment. I really did mean that I like how open minded you are in respect to being willing to support the opposite viewpoint, to be willing to look into it...excellent..