how NOT to land (a Piper) in a cross wind...

not the best Landing... Piper Cherokee, KWVI (Watsonville, CA) here you can see what happen if you don't crab the plain into the wind and lower the (right) wing. At ground effect floating, with little forward thrust, power idle, the plain get pushed by the (R) wind and then sink fast, and touch on both main wheels instead of touching on the right gear first, while straightening the plane with the rudder at the last second.

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• not the best Landing
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• KWVI
• Strawberry Aviation

[MurderDeathKill01]

Seemed like you were too close to the runway to set up properly.

[rubenshly]

yea, agree. base is short. also needed to turn the nose into the wind.

[CH67guy1]

Check out my upload on my channel of me as a very green private pilot landing my Cherokee 180 on a tricky grass strip 22 years ago. Knowing what I know now, I would have done so many things differently. It's best to fly with the attitude that you must never stop learning.

[CH67guy1]

Hey, we all were student pilots once. And had some not so great landings, etc. And with good instruction and practice it suddenly just clicks. And you learn to fly the airplane and not let it fly you. What made me most nervous here was the pilot was favoring left of center, with a wind from the right. I would have favored right of center just a tad, assuming that I will probably drift to the left as I'm really slowing things up and flaring.

[stealhty1]

practice practice

[iangatheca]

Just a suggestion bro...I trained in the PA28-161 at Florida Institute of Technology and I found it very easy to use the 'bank into the wind and use the rudder to keep the plane flying straight down the runway. I noticed that you were getting blown to the left of the centerline when you flared. That method will prevent that as long as you hold that particular procedure till touchdown, after which you slowly compensate for the right crosswind as you slow down.

[inbound1000]

let the plane drift.. needed more right wing in the wind.. flared to soon ...

[firemanlcfd]

You dont always have to let the aircraft weather vein into the wind, had he kept his right wing low and used the rudder in a cross controled fashion to keep directional control he would have been fine. I rarely "crab" into a runway unless I have passengers who may not like the feeling of haveing a wing low on final. Just dip the wing, keep the nose down the runway and land on the upwing wheel. But its what the PIC is comfortable with. A safe landing is one that you walk away from.

[bravobravo74]

I've done worse! A few pointers: use the minimum flap necessary for the runway length and don't strive for a full-stall touchdown (ie, minimise float and touch down firmly on the into-wind mainwheel). Still, treat the nosewheel as though its leg is made of glass! Tracking the runway centreline is probably easiest using the crab method, however transitioning to the wing low method at 100ft or so allows a simpler flare and touchdown, and reduces the chance of inflicting side loads on the gear.

[froobin903]

Try giving yourself some more time on final, it not only lets you set yourself up, it allows you to get your head in the game and mentally prepare for the landing. Kind of looked like you did a modified base-final which doesn't allow for a lot of set up time. Hope I could help.