Love the sinner, hate the sin. Atheism and homosexuality.

Is it even possible to love a person yet passionately hate their lifestyle or ideas?

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[GodLovesTheSinner]

if you catch you child smoking cigerrettes after telling them not to, would you still love them but, hate what they are doing? How about if you child killed another ones child? would you hate what they did but still love them! yes, God still loves all of us. sin was delt with on the cross, all we have to do is exept His love!

[Subfightr]

@GodLovesTheSinner Thank you for your comments. The things you list are things that one decides to do, smoke, kill. On the topic of homosexuality It seems to be like blaming a child because they were born with blue eyes. I understand your point behind the analogy though. God loves all of us, ok, but I don't see how that undoes his hate filled commandments toward them, killing them as he orders does not strike me as a loving act, I'm sure it does not to you either.

[GodLovesTheSinner]

@Subfightr in the New Testament, we are under Grace! Old testament was showing us that we can't save ourselves, New Testament shows that we have a saviour that paid for our sins on the cross!

[Subfightr]

@GodLovesTheSinner Isn't the savior the same guy who made the kill em comment in the first place? "never mind what I said before people, I just had myself offed so it's ok now"

[GodLovesTheSinner]

@Subfightr Jesus came not to destroy but to save. that's why He is the saviour. :)

[Subfightr]

@GodLovesTheSinner Many people say that but what am I to make of his own words? Matthew 10:34-36 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household."

[ErbobTheRandomness]

I can summarize the bible to just 2 words! Everyone died.

[Dante3210]

@Spyderschwinky

But since you want to go your own way now I'll leave you alone.

On to the next person.

[Dante3210]

@Spyderschwinky

Okay i just re-read your reply and I seriously don't see what I missed. I told you why it wasn't faulty yet you still sit here and act like I ignored your comment when i didn't.

Okay here. It's Jesus intention to abolish the law as a requirment? Is that okay with you?

Tell me how that's a contradiction. It's not. Abolishing the law as a requirment doesn't mean it no longer it exists. It just means it's no longer required.

[Dante3210]

@Spyderschwinky

Please tell me what I ignored and Ill answer every bit of it again.

[Dante3210]

@Spyderschwinky

Make me feel better? I don't understand what you're trying to say. You being younger than me doesnt make me feel more or less better about my self. And no your arguments arent less valid.

Once again, I never called you a limited individual so stop thinking that.

[Spyderschwinky]

@Dante3210 yeah great you just ignored like 70% of my comment and just answered what you wanted to answer. it's okay. we have a disagreement. let's leave it with that. I'm still an atheist, you're still a theist, no harm done.

[Spyderschwinky]

@Dante3210 sorry must have skipped that. but that was not what i meant, i meant the limited indiviual thing, and if you think that makes me an immature person to see that as an insult, then yes, i am an immature person. does that make you feel better? that the atheist may be younger than you? does that many that any of my arguments are less valid? if you say so.

[Dante3210]

@Spyderschwinky

I need to start thinking about this stuff? Who are you to tell me I need to start thinking about that? I already have and think about it all the time. What I'm trying to get you to understand is that you're just being unfair by calling things contradictions without first looking for explanations and finding a solution much like science does.

I don't believe blindly and I havent insulted you at all in this conversation.

[Dante3210]

@Spyderschwinky

I knew you'd eventually say that as they all do. "How do you know you understand it".

I never said I understand the bible completely. I'm offering my beliefs to you. Whether you wish to believe it or not is up to you, but as it stands, this is what I believe concerning this particular situation in the bible. That doesn't mean I'm completely right. it means that I hope to be right and until it's revealed to me otherwise that i'm wrong I'll stick to my belief.

[Spyderschwinky]

@Dante3210 how about you read my comment on your explanation once more? just a thought