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Uploaded by on Oct 8, 2010

Many similar failures are documented on the Internets, please do your own research before posting snarky, idiotic comments.

Please see also my new video, "UFI Spin On Filter teardown". The UFI did not collapse in similar service:

http://youtu.be/SfVG9poULRw

Otherewise, generally this is the 2nd time I've discovered this model of filter had collapsed the inner perforated tube hard against the standpipe, significantly reducing the flow area. This mode of failure of the 2804-1 is apparently ubiquitous on the 308 series Ferrari's, just a few cold starts or track time will crush that perforated tube, usually into a triangular shape like you see here, and below:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=195878

However, this Fram filter continues to be installed on maybe 50% of Ferraris I see at shows, etc. You can lead a prancing horse to water...

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  • It collapsed when you floored the engine and the filter you chose had no by pass valve. Putting a $3 filter on a ferrari = lol

  • @jedirifleman The factory filter (UFI) doesn't have a bypass either. I don't have a time machine to go back and interview the engineers who designed the engine. Apparently they were counting on a "tough" filter to resist collapse. The filter in the video was about $18

  • What kind of filter should I use on my 04 escape

  • @SuperchargedMustang5 I like the Baldwins, Wix also looks good to me, haven't cut a Wix open yet though.

  • The reason for the collapse of this element is that this particular filter does NOT have a by-pass valve incorporated. The tab that is displayed and described as the by-pass valve is simply the spring that puts pressure on the center tube to keep it situated within the canister. This filter does not specify a by-pass at all.

    This is a textbook case of mis-application and exceeded service life. Next time use a new filter on the VW and buy the proper MANN, MAHLE or HENGST filter for the job.

  • @fowvee See photos of identical failure after short service here using the link in the description above. Please see also my new video: "UFI Spin On Filter teardown". The UFI did not collapse in similar service.

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  • Who uses a fram on a ferrari? Who takes a filter off of a ferrari and reuses it on a VW? Who puts a used filter with no bypass on a VW engine that requires a bypass and then complains when it fails? This guy does.

    My advice is to sell the ferrari and buy some new oil filters and shoes. Being cheap sometimes leads to expensive repairs.

  • who has this happen once and then use tht same brand of filter and have it happen again.

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  • I feel sorry for the freaking genius who said you need an oil change "once a year" and the other guy who said "6 months" the shops arnt trying to rip you off by saying 3000 miles. In fact not changing your oil on time is a really fast way to void your warranty and blow up your engine.

  • Buy Cheap, Get Cheap Results.... Thats why I buy Factory O.M.E. for my Acura

  • How many years has the filter been installed and how many miles? You should be doing an oil change at least once every year. That oil filter looks OLD.  Never had a problem with FRAM filters in almost 30 years, with regular maintenance. Neglect will hurt anything.

  • I did the same as you did. Funny it was close to what you came across!!

  • @guidoguitar maybe because the oil cooler that the filter sits on has the bypass built in?

    Fram sucks anyway.

  • best filters tobuy are k&n, royal purple, and your factory filters like ac delco, motorcraft and many others but not these fram wallmart filters lol

  • fram used to be a good filter---nowaday its pure junk---buy yourself a wix filter--they are priced decent and built good

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