Gifts Of The Spirit Debate - Part Two

The Rev Angus Stewart from the Covenant Protestant Reformed Church in Ballymena Northern Ireland, debates on the subject of the Gifts Of The Spirit.Rev.Angus Stewart 7 Lislunnan Road Kells,Ballymena Co.Antrim
BT42 3NR Northern Ireland - pastor@cprc.co.uk (028) 25 891851

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[GENODELMAROATL]

yes i agree the UPC does the same things,, how can both be right ?

[Erap1muzik]

i agree wit angus stewart ...

[godapproved]

@eklektos777 the antecendent of them is obviously the "he" spoken of meaning them which believe. It is illogical to say otherwise bcuz vs 15 says that Christ spoke to the 11. He would clearly use the word you and not them when directly addressing them. So christ was letting the 11 know that others would do miracles also.

[1cor14]

Matt. 7:21-23 is specifically targeting Pentecostals. The 3 arguments given there are pentecostal characteristics-and none other.

[Taiwobabs]

Sorry to type this out but I really believe Calvinsim are narrow minded people.

Please let the bible speak> Mark 16:15-18

[blessedwithoutmeasur]

thats why in the 1 cor12- 14 say don't be ingnorant about them gifts of the Spirit, it also says that the gifts of the spirit aRE THERE TO PROFIT ALL, SO THERE ARE FALSE PROPHETS BUT THEN ALSO SINCE WE HAVE FALSE ONES WE ALSO HAVE THE TRUE ONE S,the gifts havent cease just like knowlegde hasn't ceased there is more going on these days then in the apostles day,I got healed of colon cancer so one more of the gifts of the Spirit that didn't pass away,

[daBlackBaron13]

Satan is the father of lies. "Miracles" performed by a false prophet are tricks, not true miracles.  A true miracle is from god. A "miracle" wrought by Satan is slight-of-hand, a technological artifice. Nothing more.

[TheProfessorEnglish]

The false does not disprove the true. Don't rob yourself of what God is doing!

[eklektos777]

Context is very important. In vs 14, Christ reproves 'them' (plural) referring to the eleven apostles who sat at meat for unbelief. Then giving the commission, he refers to 'He (singular) that believes' would be saved (in Vs 15), by vs 16, he goes back to the plural 'them that believe'. Christ was obviously not referring to 'he' namely those who are preached to and are saved, but 'them' meaning the disciples who repent of their unbelief. The signs would follow them (believing apostles).

[cornerstone111]

Jesus despises the lawless. Keep God's law people, and that includes the fourth!