1984 - Anticlerical Masterpiece

On the anti-catholic subtext of 1984 by George Orwell.
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Script
http://abstractminutiae.tumblr.com/post/7816777048/1984-anticlerical-masterpiece

Great discussion featuring John Rodden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNEgAuRYy9c

Lawrence Dugan
http://www.mmisi.org%2Fma%2F48_03%2Fdugan.pdf

Leroy Spiller
http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/logos/v006/6.4spiller.html

David Allen Green on 1984's title
http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2009/02/why-did-george-orwell-call-his-novel.html

Notes on Nationalism
http://orwell.ru/library/essays/nationalism/english/e_nat

McAndrew's Hymn
http://www.pcez.com/~artemis/SLAmcandrews.htm

"McAndrew is a ship' engineer, content with his job since a visionary experience at sea prompted him to shed his repressive Calvinist upbringing and adopt as his replacement "Institutio" a religion of the steam-engine."
- from "Rudyard Kipling: The Poet" by Peter Keating

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[supplanter111]

u missed some of the more obvious clues & i believe the inner party was the jesuit order itself with indirect references to st. ignatius' spiritual exorcises,the inner party in black, obrian couldve been a "priest", enemies of the party were "heretics" etc.

[Hamandchees3]

@supplanter111 The more time I put into the book the more these themes come out. Thanks for your ideas.

[SecularNumanist]

Fantastic analysis. Really loved this. Might plagiarise this at Uni

[Hamandchees3]

@SecularNumanist Please do

[blackacidlizzard]

The issue of Catholic/fascist collusion had passed?

It STILL hasn't passed. If people are still bitching about it sixty-odd years later, surely one can reasonably think a piece from the same decade might be intentionally highlighting it.

[Hamandchees3]

@blackacidlizzard Not just any collusion, but /the/ open collusion of the Church and Fascist parties had passed. If you think the Catholic church still has fascist elements I wouldn't disagree but it wasn't the explicit historical circumstance to which I was referring. Fascism as a word has completely lost its connection to the official ideologies it use to signify. I did put in a pic of Pope Pius XII but even his fascism is under-substantiated and nothing like the pre-WW2 epoch.

[supplanter111]

@supplanter111 Orwell depicts the innerparty writing goldstein's book which the ''black robes' have almost exclusively been cited as doing including the ghost writing of adolph hitler's books. also, golstein's book may have been a metaphor for the protocols of zion, a popular writing distributed globaly. these protocols, universally in every publication, have that suspicious part in chapter 5(or maybe 4) where these 'masterminds' say the jesuits are the ONLY group that threatens their tyranny.

[supplanter111]

@Hamandchees3 & ty very much for this vid; i was very delighted 2 see this video because i had thought the same thing and would never had discovered what u have. I like to suggest that maybe the book is actually an undercover pro-tyranny/catholic book & that Orwell, regardless of his open positions was infact an agent of the vatican. he also alludes secret handshakes and gestures in the book, did make the protagonist an immoral rapist, willing to spread std's, murder & throw acid in kids' face.

[carusmm]

Winston could be Catholic inasmuch as he is not persuaded by the chaos of relativism, i.e., 2 + 2 = 5, however Orwell reckoned on certain certainties in life of which Margaret Atwood seems to be a critic in Oryx and Crake & The Year of the Flood. Together, they both fear the mob and are both righteous.

[carusmm]

Mindfulness is a total con as in no way can it be total at any one moment.