Did John the Baptist baptize Jesus?

The gospels disagree about whether John the Baptist baptized Jesus. The gospel of John doesn't even mention Jesus being baptized at all.

Information about John Dominic Crossan's "The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant":

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Historical-Jesus/John-Dominic-Crossan/e/...

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[jazzx251]

This is one video I missed ...

Just when you thought there were no more plot holes in The Bible - along comes this 4-year-old video!

[Darty105]

Idk. It depends. If one states contradictions, they generally either want it changed or attributes it to the person being wrong. That's what's in the bible. Contradictions. Many religions have contradictions so that it can be said to hold any, and every stance. Something that is almost exclusively used by charismatic dictators or rulers to make everyone happy with lies. It depends.

[pinkus44]

@73geneva i think i have a better chance at being god's special adviser on hell matters than most people like you cats

[pinkus44]

@73geneva it sounded to me, i'm sorry if i was wrong, that you were implying that profmth, as an athiest, would be wrong to concern himself with the idea of god. well, profmth was at one time a believer - a real one - so that is the correlation to the moonie compound - believing in ANY thought system is a form of brain washing including christianity and brother mth is sharing his testimony to help other people not to be cowed by cosmic terror.

[73geneva]

@pinkus44 Honestly, I don't have the slightest idea of what you're rambling about. ...deprogrammed after being at moonie compound.... What are you talking about?

"...god is going to send Christians to hell..."

Well, I guess you're His Special Adviser on Hell Matters and you'll tell him to grant your desire. How about that?

[pinkus44]

@73geneva if someone was deprogrammed after being at a moonie compound, would they be "amazing" if they spent their life talking about it to help others? god is going to send all you christians to hell for being so smug

[73geneva]

I'm amazed how a man can spend his whole life talking about something he doesn't believe in. It never cease to amaze me.

[EnnoiaBlog]

“After the people were baptized, Jesus also came and was baptized by John. And as Jesus came up from the water, Heaven was opened, and He saw the Holy Spirit descend in the form of a dove and enter into Him. And a voice from Heaven said, ‘You are my beloved Son; with You I am well pleased.’ And again, ‘Today I have begotten You.’ -- Epiphanius, Panarion 30:3 & 30:13 Indicates that Jesus was NOT begotten by God until AFTER baptism.

[KayBeeEee1983]

John also doesn't mention communion at the last supper. I imagine that he leaves out baptism and communion because he thinks they're silly, unnecessary rituals. Notice that when the Jewish leaders ask John the baptist WHY he baptizes, John doesn't even answer the question. John 1:24-27 “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?”

“I baptize with water,” John replied, “but among you stands one you do not know. He is the one who comes after me" etc.

[KayBeeEee1983]

The Jesus tradition shouldn't be uneasy about John the baptist being seemingly superior to Jesus because Jesus putting himself last is one of the main themes of the Jesus story. All the gospels talk about it. John's gospel talks about Jesus washing his disciples' feet. Matthew, Mark, and Luke repeatedly talk about the first making themselves last.

Jesus' baptism also doesn't mean that Jesus is sinful because baptism is NOT a washing away of sin. If it were, Jesus' death would be unnecessary!