HIGH wind PG ground control

First thing, if you belive the theory, practice & procedures used by the BHPA do NOT even think about trying this! I have safely flown around 3,000hrs in 10 years by understanding the physics of how PG wings work if you try this based on the idea that using the brakes will keep the wing under control you better like hospital food! At PPC we train to be able to LAND safely if needed if the wind increases too ABOVE trim speed. NB. for students this training is done in winds that remain BELOW trim speed... Precision Paragliding providing an alternative to the BHPA since the late 90's for BHPA & ex-BHPA pilots wishing to RE-train or new pilot entering the sport who do NOT wish to risk the standards/accident rates produced by 'normal' PG theory, practices & procedures!

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[XxTazJadeSpencexX]

I don't mean to cause offence- but this is bloody dangerous.

Firstly, Why blame the BHPA for accidents and say they are unsafe- How good schools are have nothing to do with the BHPA. I fly with a very safe school where eveyone completes their training at their own paste- we go by the BHPA training. The only cause for accidents is normally pilot error or equipment.

Secondly, I can ground handle in windy conditions better than this. All this video shows is how not to do it.

[murrayhay]

Jade What a lot of crap! The bhpa have injured & killed (directly & indirectly many thousands!) 'Safe School' HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED AT THE BHPA INJURY & DEATH RATES!!!! They had YET ANOTHER ONE LAST WEEK!!!

RE 'BETTER'... PROVE IT! Just rember to make sure your will is up to date first! I've been hearing this same sort of crap from the bhpa funders/supporters since before their last 80+ DEATHS.... wake up and smell what your wallowing in!

[murrayhay]

The BHPA clearly does NOT "recomend the same as..", after all IF THEY DID UNDERSTAND HOW PARAGLIDERS WORK they would NOT have killed & injured as many as they HAVE!

NOTE! (for SAFETY!!!!) you should NOT simply 'keep pulling until you have the wing'..

Nor do I EVER teach pilots to A (single) riser, only those as incompetent as the BHPA will (these days!) advise this sort of dangerous practice!

NB: a No. of BHPA 'schools' issue CP 'ratings' to 'students' with UNDER 30min airtime!

[freeflyinmik]

@murrayhay the BHPA recomends the same as a lot of this vid shows. The brakes:if you have landed when it's strong wind,pull a riser("safety riser" murray calls it for some reason) and keep ulling until you have the wing and it is controlled.

The running falling over and then leaning back to control the wing.I don't think you had much choice in this now Murray,lying on your face would have been a bit stupid.

[ellus2flyer]

i agree the bhpa is a rip off thay look after there own cfi s as i had a crash in spain and i reported it to them 3 week later found out he should have done it 48 hours after it happened . he sold me an ellus3 XL when i should have been on an ellus3 L i was 98kg all up on a wing 100-130kg in spain in 40 deg heat . it was like trying to control pitbull on heat . thus i smashed into the ground crushing my L1 . the bhpa look after there own .

[murrayhay]

Brakes. NO! A very LARGE number of 'normal' trained PG pilots, over the 20+ years of the sport have been injured (or killed) by trying to control ('kill') the wing in winds of even 1/2 this strength!

I spend a LOT of time with RE-training students to STOP the UNsafe 'Regression' 1st trained habit of pulling brakes!

'Safety Risers' are wing dependant, in 3 riser designs they are ALWAYS the C's, on 4 riser gliders they can be C's OR (sometimes) the D's. NB pulling TOO much 'SR' is also bad

[ollycopter]

@murrayhay By safety risers are you talking about brakes? Are they clipped in in this video?

[murrayhay]

Hi zekezero12345 I found the comedy clip you were refering to.... but as it has no relevance to my video clip which is all about SAFETY in very strong conditions it's hard to see why you would choose to mention it!

[zekezero12345]

Try a search on You Tube for Supermax 1 or 2 - PG films. I'm sure you didn't mean your clip to be funny Murray, but it is. Not a bad thing by any means......

[murrayhay]

Hi zekezero12345

'Supermax'? I could not find any (relevant) refrence....?

Mind you I'm not sure that a video demonstrating just how EASY it is to stay SAFE in VERY strong conditions can be regarded by any resonably minded pilot as 'Hilarious'..... Of course in the case of the UK we DO have a bunch of nutters known as the BHPA who find it acceptiable to charge 'pilots' £1,300 for 'training' which see a pilot 'rated' with as (AND I QUOTE!) 'As much as 30 mins airtime by the end of training'