Positive Knot

This is a knot that I've "invented." It seems like someone else must have come up with it by now, but I've looked everywhere and haven't found it. If there's another name for this knot, could someone please tell me? As much as I'd like to think I'd invented a knot, I would rather know if someone else has already done it before I start bragging.

I call it the Positive knot because with two slip knot loops, it becomes a fixed loop. Two negatives equals a positive. Get it?

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[kmend52962]

Check Alpine butterfly knott....has the same structure...tyed different but ends in two slipknots

[PacoWarabi]

Alpine Butterfly can be tied in the bight, while the Positive Knot can't. I really like the Alpine Butterfly, but this isn't it.

[PacoWarabi]

@PacoWarabi

I don't know what I was thinking before, but the Positive Knot is tied in the bight. I think what I meant is that the Positive Knot is used at the end of a rope, while the Alpine Butterfly is used in the middle. But both are tied in the bight.

[riteonfukenkaren]

okay, that's one way to keep a manharness loop from slipping, I guess. Just tie another next to it and run the second loop through the first. It remains easy to untie if the loop is loaded, but if the bitter end is loaded, the only way you're untying it with one hand in less than a second is with a sharp knife.

[PacoWarabi]

It definitely has its drawbacks. I've tied it in some thin stuff and loaded it with my body weight and it took half an hour and a special tool to get it undone. But then again, what knot doesn't have drawbacks?

[riteonfukenkaren]

Well, I certainly concede that point. Indeed, if there ever were a perfect knot, there would not be thousands of them for us to ponder over. By the way, you make a solid quality knot video; your arms stay out of the shot. Sorry for not mentioning that earlier. And my earlier comment was a bit abrasive, sorry there also.

[PacoWarabi]

No worries. I appreciate constructive criticism -- in fact, I appreciate any comments at all.

Glad you liked the video. I try hard to make sure that they're clear and easy to follow. That's why I don't put things up very often; it takes a long time.

[noahbalmer]

Different from the butterfly (aka lineman's loop, alpine butterfly) in that the overhands in this don't interlock as they do in the butterfly. I tied a few of these by accident while reverse-engineering the butterfly as a kid. I think the butterfly is a better knot, but this one is not bad.

[OvalVW]

Paco, you goofy bastard, kudos on stumping the IGKT...

[q1qeu]

thats a great one